? Studding Basement Walls?
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Walk On
    Points: 7,225, Level: 25
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 325
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    169
    Points
    7,225
    Level
    25
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    ? Studding Basement Walls?

    I've got 9' ceilings with the top 5' or so studded out and insulated... The bottom half is flush with the top but is concrete foundation. Rather than stud the whole wall out (55' X 9') with 2 X 4's I was thinking of just using 2 X 2's and shallow electrical boxes?!?! Is this up to code and/or even a good idea? If it would work it would be easy to just throw 2 x 2 studs up with a powder actuated ramset gun or something right?

    What do construction knowledgable people think?

    Thanks in advance!



  2. #2
    Recruit
    Points: 6,403, Level: 23
    Level completed: 71%, Points required for next Level: 147
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    107
    Points
    6,403
    Level
    23
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Quote Originally Posted by waynemorgan View Post
    I've got 9' ceilings with the top 5' or so studded out and insulated... The bottom half is flush with the top but is concrete foundation. Rather than stud the whole wall out (55' X 9') with 2 X 4's I was thinking of just using 2 X 2's and shallow electrical boxes?!?! Is this up to code and/or even a good idea? If it would work it would be easy to just throw 2 x 2 studs up with a powder actuated ramset gun or something right?

    What do construction knowledgable people think?



    Thanks in advance!
    Can you post a pic? Is the studded portion sitting on a concrete shelf --- So your basement cement wall has a bump out on the bottom? This isn't a wood foundation, right.. In general a 2x4 wall will do a better job holding up (and screws in) for sheetrock..... If you are doing car siding or something you might get away with 2x2 furring strips


    Last edited by CoachBob; 03-14-2011 at 09:02 PM.

  3. #3
    All-Star
    Points: 31,717, Level: 54
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 233
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    CykoAGR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Waukee, IA
    Posts
    1,693
    Points
    31,717
    Level
    54
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 22
    Given: 181

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    I'm guessing you have a "lookout" basement? Meaning you have the larger egress windows not the little tiny ones with the metal thing about 2ft deep.

    As for the studs, I have a lookout and I finished the basement a few years back. I went ahead and did regular 2X4s. This gives you room to put up insulation and electrical boxes. I think they do make the shallow boxes but they can be harder to use because most of you outlets and light switches are made for the normal size.

    I'm not sure if there are codes for how thick your walls have to be since they are not a weigh bearing wall it might not matter.

    Obviously totally up to you but My guess is that it wont save that much time or money using the 2x2 vs the 2x4.


    “It’s beyond pride. It’s a restored trust. There’s a confidence again, a passion that teeters on swagger. More than anything, (Iowa State head coach Paul Rhoads) has restored the Iowa State “it” factor, the steadfast belief that it is great to be a Cyclone...the man’s enthusiasm is genuine to the core...”
    – columnist Sean Keeler, Des Moines Register

  4. #4
    Rookie
    Points: 13,505, Level: 35
    Level completed: 23%, Points required for next Level: 545
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Posts
    567
    Points
    13,505
    Level
    35
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    My husband builds houses. He says that would not be up to code or a good idea. You wouldn't be able to get the R11 insulating value that code requires. You can either frame to the top of the concrete and have a ledge, or frame all 9 feet if you don't want a ledge, but you'd only have to insulate the bottom part. Code info is for Cedar Rapids, not sure if it varies.



  5. #5
    Starter
    Points: 13,994, Level: 35
    Level completed: 92%, Points required for next Level: 56
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    631
    Points
    13,994
    Level
    35
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 14
    Given: 20

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Couldn't just just do a wall from the floor up to where the existing studs are? This would make a ledge around the basement, which you may or may not like.

    I'm certainly not that informed about it, but with installing electrical like you mentioned and since you would want to insulate it as well you would probably want to do full studs in front of what you currently have or what I mentioned above.

    Just one man's opinion.



  6. #6
    Walk On
    Points: 7,225, Level: 25
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 325
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    169
    Points
    7,225
    Level
    25
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Can't post a picture but.... The house sits on a slanted lot. Therefore, any part of the basement that sits underground is concrete and anything above ground is studded out and insulated with daylight windows (no egressed).... Both parts sit flush for the most part, top to bottom... Does this help? I could just do a 2 x 4 ledge so I can run outlets but don't really want that. There is plenty of room so just going the 2 x 4 route is what I'm thinking but thought maybe 2 x 2 is all that is neccessary?!?!

    Thanks guys!



  7. #7
    Recruit
    Points: 6,403, Level: 23
    Level completed: 71%, Points required for next Level: 147
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    107
    Points
    6,403
    Level
    23
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdOfWar View Post
    Couldn't just just do a wall from the floor up to where the existing studs are? This would make a ledge around the basement, which you may or may not like.

    I'm certainly not that informed about it, but with installing electrical like you mentioned and since you would want to insulate it as well you would probably want to do full studs in front of what you currently have or what I mentioned above.

    Just one man's opinion.
    If it is a look out --- this can make a very nice look --- I have seen some super looking ledges --- usually only one wall is like this -- back wall in a ranch for example. I am not sure what he has going on here. good thought



  8. #8
    Walk On
    Points: 7,225, Level: 25
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 325
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    169
    Points
    7,225
    Level
    25
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    So assuming I do 2 x 4 all the way up, what kind of barrier do you use between then studs and concrete? Last question, thanks all!



  9. #9
    Recruit
    Points: 6,403, Level: 23
    Level completed: 71%, Points required for next Level: 147
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    107
    Points
    6,403
    Level
    23
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Quote Originally Posted by waynemorgan View Post
    Can't post a picture but.... The house sits on a slanted lot. Therefore, any part of the basement that sits underground is concrete and anything above ground is studded out and insulated with daylight windows (no egressed).... Both parts sit flush for the most part, top to bottom... Does this help? I could just do a 2 x 4 ledge so I can run outlets but don't really want that. There is plenty of room so just going the 2 x 4 route is what I'm thinking but thought maybe 2 x 2 is all that is neccessary?!?!

    Thanks guys!

    I just think it may be hard to get 2x2's to hold sheet rock well over time.... When screws back out it is a pain in the butt.. 2x4 for sure would be best imo...... Good luck with this... take your time and enjoy the work!!!!



  10. #10
    Walk On
    Points: 7,225, Level: 25
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 325
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    169
    Points
    7,225
    Level
    25
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoachBob View Post
    I just think it may be hard to get 2x2's to hold sheet rock well over time.... When screws back out it is a pain in the butt.. 2x4 for sure would be best imo...... Good luck with this... take your time and enjoy the work!!!!
    Buy your stock in Miller Lite now, its going to take me a few :) Thanks!



  11. #11
    Rookie
    Points: 13,505, Level: 35
    Level completed: 23%, Points required for next Level: 545
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Posts
    567
    Points
    13,505
    Level
    35
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    You don't have to have anything. You keep your framing a half inch out from the concrete.



  12. #12
    Addict
    Points: 79,097, Level: 87
    Level completed: 42%, Points required for next Level: 1,053
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CYVADER's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Cornfields
    Posts
    5,232
    Points
    79,097
    Level
    87
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 11
    Given: 6

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    2x4 all the way. you will only be losing 2" of floor space, and the cost isn't going to be much more, and it will be way easier to work with, better insulation, etc



  13. #13
    Pro
    Points: 28,618, Level: 51
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 32
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Scott34's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Cedar Rapids
    Posts
    2,422
    Points
    28,618
    Level
    51
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 97
    Given: 73

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    I personally love the look of a wall cap but building a wall straight up may be cheaper if the wall is pretty long. Guess it just depends on the look and the money you want to spend.


    "Its time to roll up our sleeves, put on our hard hats and go to work together"


  14. #14
    Prospect
    Points: 2,549, Level: 14
    Level completed: 33%, Points required for next Level: 201
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    15
    Points
    2,549
    Level
    14
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 0

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    One of things you have to look out is trapping moisture between your sheetrock and the wall and it turns into mold.
    The cold concrete will become wet when the moisture from the inside or outside gets trapped in the walls.
    You can not put plastic against the concrete that will not work. It is not a good idea to use fiberglass against the concrete. Best way is research on how to put 3/4 or inch foam glued to the wall.
    Anyway it can be a big problem



  15. #15
    Speechless
    Points: 271,794, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    isuno1fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Clive, Iowa
    Posts
    17,536
    Points
    271,794
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 166
    Given: 38

    Re: ? Studding Basement Walls?

    Get a permit



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Cyclones.tv
  • HOOPS: Iowa State vs. Mississippi Valley State
  • December 31, 2014
  • 06:00 PM