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    Jake Sullivan Article

    Decent article from the Register on Jake Sullivan's mission for Kingdom Hoops.
    Kingdom Hoops is Jake Sullivan's vision above basketball | The Des Moines Register | DesMoinesRegister.com



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    This is a good read


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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Main words were right at the begining of the article....FOR PROFIT!!! This is a PR move and I'm sure was initiated by someone from his group. However, this article doesn't seem to match the perception of many of the parents that have dealt with Kingdom Hoops.

    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclone06 View Post
    Main words were right at the begining of the article....FOR PROFIT!!! This is a PR move and I'm sure was initiated by someone from his group. However, this article doesn't seem to match the perception of many of the parents that have dealt with Kingdom Hoops.

    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.

    I'll preface this by saying that I am not a religious person and do not have extensive knowledge when it comes to basketball clubs, camps, leagues, whatever. That said I think there are a few things I don't understand about your comments.

    1. Aren't most basketball clubs "for profit"? I hardly think that Jake Sullivan is the exception here. If that is the case then your statement has no bearings.
    2. Being in the advertising/media business I regret your statement about this being a "PR move." Even if it is what is wrong with a company looking to get PR? The articles are not written by Kingdom Hoops, they are written by the news source and Kingdom Hoops has no control over the content of the story. Trust me, PR still has to be relevant to the readers before a media company with print it. Otherwise it's just free advertising and companies don't just let you advertise for free.
    3. I disagree with your statement about keeping religion out of basketball. If you don't like the process that he is taking then you and anyone else has the choice to not support it by not paying for your child to go there. Kingdom hoops is, as you said, for profit, which means that he can choose how he wants to run his business. I don't see the issue. It looks as if he is more about steering kids to make the right decisions in life and less about pressuring people to be of a certain religion. If my child wanted to go there, I would have not problem sending them there.

    Sorry, I'm not a usual poster. I usually just read, but I really don't see the issue with Kingdom Hoops. I also am not near the issue, so who knows, I could be wrong.


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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclone06 View Post
    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.
    Then it should be easy for you, don't send your kid to Kingdom Hoops. Honestly I can't see why it would make a difference to you one way or another.




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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclone06 View Post
    Main words were right at the begining of the article....FOR PROFIT!!! This is a PR move and I'm sure was initiated by someone from his group. However, this article doesn't seem to match the perception of many of the parents that have dealt with Kingdom Hoops.

    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.

    I actually have less of a problem with a "for profit" group like this than I do with those damn "non profit" AAU cesspools of corruption. In a profit situation, the organization does things in the open to meet their budget. With a non-profit, I think its perfect reasonable to assume that the organization will be sorely tempted to work behind the scenes to position themselves for an illicit payday.

    Besides, if you "keep religion out of basketball" you would also have to support "keep atheism out of basketball"; since atheism is just a religion that believes that there are no real religions.


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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Hopefully he can help these kids out of bad situations and in the process advance their basketball skills. And if he wants to steer these kids to ISU in a completely non-booster way, I'm cool with that too



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Wish I could make a living teaching young kids basketball and be a mentor for at risk youth...

    Sounds fulfilling- Good luck Jake...



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclone06 View Post
    Main words were right at the begining of the article....FOR PROFIT!!! This is a PR move and I'm sure was initiated by someone from his group. However, this article doesn't seem to match the perception of many of the parents that have dealt with Kingdom Hoops.

    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.
    There's nothing wrong with trying to be profitable.
    Using religion ? I don't mind athletes, politicansor public figures use their religions for greater good. I have more problems with these people using religions for their own purposes



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    that picture cracked me up - i can't believe a guy that looks like a human penguin scored 1,700 pts in the b12 conference.



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Wow, don't get hating on Jake and his faith. He isn't doing it as a high school coach, or college coach or even little league coach. He is doing at his private business which people can choose to pay to join. It isn't a bait & switch, unless your really not paying attention you know from the start what you are joining.

    I say more power this former Cyclone. I am proud to have an alum who believes in investing into the lives of young people while earning a living. Great young man and yeah I agree, he doesn't look like a 1700 point Big 12 scorer.

    BTW, I had forgotten how much his last two years were impacted by injuries, makes you wonder what his scoring total could have been.


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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    The after-school program is the only part of it that I have seen in action but I can say that those kids absolutely are benefiting from the program. I would imagine their basketball skills are helped as well but a lot of those kids need somewhere to be and people to look up and keep them focused on success in the future.

    As for the religious aspect (in the afterschool portion at least) it is very subtle and almost non-existent from what I have seen so if you're going to hate on it for that reason I would say don't waste your time. From my experiences.


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    So alothough you attempt"ed to say you didn"t understnad, now you do. Fair enough?

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    Great article; sounds like a great program; he would have my total support from what I read. I'm glad to see it "for profit" as opposed to these "not for profit" organizations that just hike up their personal salaries and other expenses to avoid showing a profit on the bottom line.



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    Re: Jake Sullivan Article

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclone06 View Post
    Main words were right at the begining of the article....FOR PROFIT!!! This is a PR move and I'm sure was initiated by someone from his group. However, this article doesn't seem to match the perception of many of the parents that have dealt with Kingdom Hoops.

    Vote me in the group that says keep religion out of basketball.
    These parent's PAY for their kids to be a part of it, not like they are having religion forced down their throats. I see nothing wrong with it, it's really no different than sending your kid to Dowling HS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CYdTracked View Post
    These parent's PAY for their kids to be a part of it, not like they are having religion forced down their throats. I see nothing wrong with it, it's really no different than sending your kid to Dowling HS.

    What? Aren't you in the group voting to keep religion out of catholic high schools?


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