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    Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    ESPN - Source: Vick won't admit to killing dogs or gambling - NFL

    Listening to Mike & Mike this morning...they "reported" that Vick is expected not to plea guilty to killing dogs or gambling on dog fights.

    He's only expected to plea guilty to interstate commerce for the purpose of dogfighting (basically that he was there and funded it).

    This is contrary to what all of the other three defendants testified. Will be very interesting to see how the judge deals with the plea.

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    Plea now entered...

    Vick admits dog killing, conspiracy - CNN.com


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    The deal has been cut and the judge will likely take it and send him to the can for a year.


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Doesn't the prosecution have to accept any deal? If so, why in the hell did they accept this???



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    They will accept is so we don't spend tax payer money on a trial. They will accept it so we don't have to listen to Jesse ******* and "The Reverend" Al Sharpton talk about how this is a race issue. They will accept it because we have already proven that football players that are murders are set free.



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Quote Originally Posted by cys_av8r View Post
    They will accept is so we don't spend tax payer money on a trial. They will accept it so we don't have to listen to Jesse ******* and "The Reverend" Al Sharpton talk about how this is a race issue. They will accept it because we have already proven that football players that are murders are set free.
    Those two idiots really don't have a leg to stand on with the "racist" issue since the NAACP national president has already said that this whole thing is not a race issue - Vick was flat out wrong.

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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Those two idiots really don't have a leg to stand on with the "racist" issue since the NAACP national president has already said that this whole thing is not a race issue - Vick was flat out wrong.

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    They rarely have a leg to stand on, but that doesn't stop them from being interviewed on every network and me having to listen to their ******** comments.

    Oh yeah, and on one of the morning shows the other day they already brought the race thing into it asking if the country would be reacting the same way if it was Peyton Manning that was accused. My answer.....yes.


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Being there and witnessing it to me is just as bad as doing it yourself I think considering you did nothing to stop it. I sure hope they don't accept this plea and try to get him on more than just funding and witnessing this.

    Speaking of dogs I about hit one on the way to work today. Damn thing would not get out of the road. I stopped and blared the horn and the stupid thing just stood there. Was one of those little dogs and he got right in front of my front bumper where I could not see him so I slowly pulled forward and thankfully the little mut got out of the way but the cars that backed up behind me had the same problem as he kept walking out onto the road.



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    He has officially entered the plea...

    Vick admits dog killing, conspiracy - CNN.com



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    Wow, I didn't think he would make that plea.

    Another twisted chapter for the story of the Vick boys.


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    The question is, could they actually prove the gambling charges against Vick? There's no physical evidence that I'm aware of that shows Vick made side bets, and the witnesses (former cronies) accusing him of doing that pretty much amounts to hearsay.


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    The question is, could they actually prove the gambling charges against Vick? There's no physical evidence that I'm aware of that shows Vick made side bets, and the witnesses (former cronies) accusing him of doing that pretty much amounts to hearsay.
    The gambling accusations were that he financed the fights rather than that he was making side bets. And from what has been reported by the media the gambling accusations were documented by a lot more than just hearsay.



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    The question is, could they actually prove the gambling charges against Vick? There's no physical evidence that I'm aware of that shows Vick made side bets, and the witnesses (former cronies) accusing him of doing that pretty much amounts to hearsay.
    Record books detailing the gambling operation, money that has been confiscated, and Vicks banking records all reportedly document that he was putting up the purse for the dog fight contests. In addition, the contests took place on property owned by Vick. The co-defendents have provided written statements that the funding for the contests was exclusively funded by Vick (hearsay).



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what? UPDATE - plea entered

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    Record books detailing the gambling operation, money that has been confiscated, and Vicks banking records all reportedly document that he was putting up the purse for the dog fight contests. In addition, the contests took place on property owned by Vick. The co-defendents have provided written statements that the funding for the contests was exclusively funded by Vick (hearsay).
    I didn't say the gambling operation - I said Vick making sidebets. I think there's a different charge between running the circle and actually placing bets in the circle.


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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Doesn't the prosecution have to accept any deal? If so, why in the hell did they accept this???
    It's the other way around. Vick's lawyers work out a deal with the prosecution. The prosecution "recommends" the deal to the judge as being what the people want. The judge may or may not accept it and can issue whatever sentence the judge wants.



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    Re: Vick: Guitly...of what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    It's the other way around. Vick's lawyers work out a deal with the prosecution. The prosecution "recommends" the deal to the judge as being what the people want. The judge may or may not accept it and can issue whatever sentence the judge wants.
    And if the judge doesn't accept the deal or modifies the sentence, the defendent has the right to withdraw his plea.



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