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    Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Well it's time for the tournament in Kansas City and again KC is excited to have all the teams. Below are some helpful hints from questions I get every year. Sorry for the length, trying to get most topics covered. We have volunteers that know KC well at many downtown hotels as well as the Sprint Center. They are staffed with maps and info so stop by and get suggestions. We love to give suggestions. Here are some FAQs that we tend to be asked. I hope this helps everyone traveling to KC. To let you know, I'm in my 30’s living downtown, love dining out and
    barhopping. So take that into account as you read my suggestions and use accordingly. Feel free to email me at downtownkc@gmail.com or follow me on twitter @downtownkc where I plan to give updates during the tournament and can answer any questions when you are here. I post this on about every Big 12 forum...so might see it if you visit other sites. Just hoping to spread a lot of info to a lot of fans. I'll be happy to answer any other questions people have.

    - Events -There are free concerts Wed and Thurs nights after the games (P&L is 21+ after 9pm
    FYI). Also the Big 12 will have their normal fan fest setup on Grand between the Sprint Center
    and P&L district all week.

    - Weather -Bring about everything. Big 12 week can be 30 degrees to 70 degrees. Looks like it will be wet this year.

    - Hotels -Many are pretty busy by now but if you want to walk, the Marriott, Crowne Plaza,
    Hotel Phillips, Hotel President, Holiday Inn Aladdin are all walkable. Sheraton (former Hyatt)
    and Westin are downtown but probably not walkable for most. Also many good hotels on the
    Plaza including Marriott, Courtyard, Sheraton, Residence Inn, and Intercontinential. If you stay
    in the burbs, you are driving....cheaper but not near the experience if you ask me. Money you
    might save in hotel costs will be eaten up in taxi and parking costs.

    - Tickets -Men is sold out, women still available. Tickets are available through ticketmaster.
    Scalping is legal in Missouri although I don't believe on the grounds of the Sprint Center and
    Power and Light district tends to chase off scalpers. Most of you have been to the Big 12
    tournament before and know the drill. Wait for a losing team, buy their extras, etc.

    -Transportation - Airport Super Shuttle is the best way to get from the airport to downtown
    if you don't want to rent a car. Taxis are expensive. Staying anywhere downtown including
    Sheraton/Westin to the Plaza (which I highly recommend) , there is the MAX bus line (map here
    http://www.kcata.org) that is safe, quick, and easy. $1.50 each way, can also get a $3 all day pass
    if you ask the driver when you board. Drops off a block from the arena. Runs until 12:30am.
    There is no downtown shuttle going from hotels to/from arenas. Taxis to the plaza will run you
    15-20 with tip.

    - Parking -There are multiple parking lots all over downtown. The closer, the more expensive
    obviously. A good parking lot map here: (http://www.downtownkc.org/wp-content...eb_Feb2012.pdf). Take the bus

    if at all
    possible...save yourself parking cash. Usually runs around $10 a day. The daytime sessions Wed
    & Thurs are a bit tougher with downtown employers also parking at some garages.

    - Sprint Center hints – Get into Sprint Center early if you like to watch a lot of warm-ups. With
    a bar district across the street and no alcohol in the Sprint Center, it causes a rush at the last
    second. Seems particularly bad when there are two sessions as they empty and clean the arena
    between and doesn’t leave a lot of time for fans to get in. No weapons…this includes pocket
    knives.

    Open Free Practice - Big 12 announced no open public practices for 2012.

    - Restaurants - An overall dining map here for things around downtown. This map is also
    available at fan information booths in hotels and Sprint Center: (http://216.119.82.16/wp-content/uplo...urant-Map1.pdf)

    My personal favorites....I will just list them, I'm sure you can google / GPS them as you need:
    - BBQ - Close to downtown is unfortunately not easy. Jack Stack is on the edge of walkable.
    Gates is on the MAX route at 31st Street. Arthur Bryants is a car ride.. Oklahoma Joes is also
    quality but it's a drive.

    Quick between sessions -This is the toughest for people to find. Fact is the P&L district can't
    handle 18,000 fans from the Sprint Center and countless fans hanging out without tickets in
    the time you need. Expand your search beyond P&L district proper. Remember thousands of
    workers eat down here quick every day. Some that are walkable (* = lunch only): Zaina (12/
    Walnut), Willies (16/Grand), Kansas City Cafe* (17/Grand), Art of Pizza (18/Baltimore), Quaff
    (10/Broadway), Jimmy Johns (12/Grand), Subway* (11/Oak), Peanut (9/Broadway), Ingredient
    (12/Main), Subway* (11/Oak) City Center Square Food Court (12/Main), Planet Sub* (11/
    Main), KFC/Pizza Hut* (11/Main),

    - Good lesser known places but probably not the quickest to serve you between sessions but still
    good and walkable: Pizza Bella (18/Baltimore), Bulldog (17/Main), Tannin (16/Walnut), 12
    Baltimore (12/Baltimore)

    - Places to avoid due to being busy between sessions - Chipotle, Cosentino's grocery, Johnnys,
    Whopper Bar

    - Coffee -Starbucks at 12th & Main and 13th & Wyandotte, LatteLand at 12th & Main,
    Cosentinos at 13th & Main, Scooters inside of building at 11th & Main (weekdays only)

    - Steaks - My personal favorite is Plaza III on the Plaza, in downtown I'd go with Majestic at (10/
    Broadway). 801 is ok but it is pricey.

    - Latin/Mexican - My fave is Ponaks due to the margaritas but not walkable, Mannys is on the
    edge of walkable. Some swear by Los Corrales (9/Broadway) and Los Tules (17th & Broadway),
    Extra Virgin is a great tapas place (20/Main)

    - Italian -Garozzos but isn't walkable, Anthonys I like but it's hit or miss is walkable at (7/
    Grand), also Lidias (by Jack Stack)

    - Cool local places probably better for nice dinner -Michael Smith (20/Main), Rieger Hotel (19/
    Main), American, Farmhouse (rivermarket) , Blue Bird & Westside local (westside)

    - Beer snob bars - Flying Saucer, Westside Local, Beer Kitchen (westport).

    - Dive Bars -Quaff (10/Broadway), Zoo Bar (13/McGee), Brick (17/McGee), Cigar Box (16/
    Grand), Harrys Country Club (5/Grand)

    - Live Music -Brick, Phoenix, Majestic, Drum Room

    - Brunch -Bristol is walkable, as is Majestic, some other good ones are a drive including Eggtc.,
    Succotash, and You say Tomato. Westside local is also on the edge of walkable in the westside
    neighborhoo d.

    Power & Light District - Across from Sprint Center is the P&L district which some KC residents
    love, some dislike...either way, you'll be spending time here more than likely and tourists tend to
    love it. So quick spin around the district to what is there

    - Outdoor area - First off, you can hang out outside with big screen TV and drink under a
    covered courtyard... many do this.

    - Johnnys -Quality sports bar. Great TVs, drinks specials, bar food. Will be packed.

    - Pizza Bar -Nothing special. Good to grab a slice to go.

    - McFaddens - Alright bar food, more upbeat drinking establishment

    - Dubliner (replaces Raglan Road from prior years) - Huge Irish bar that's pretty fun.

    - Gordon Biersch -Kinda like an Applebee's type brew pub....food is better but pretty corporate.

    - Makers Mark - Only eaten here a couple times, it's okay, good liquor selection and more of a
    lounge bar

    - Tengo Sed -Mexican themed bar....it's ok, nothing special but okay

    - Howl at the Moon -Dueling Piano bar, pretty fun if like that stuff

    - Shark Bar -80's/90's dance bar....girls love this place

    - Z Strike (formerly Lucky Strike) - pretty large lounge and bowling alley

    - Mosaic -Techno Dance club

    - Angels Rock Bar - Hard Rock dance club

    - PBR Sky Bar - Country bar complete with a bull

    All those above are inside the P&L "Live" block that will be blocked off and you can carry your
    drinks in and out of all of these bars and in/out the courtyard. Other places around the P&L
    district proper

    - Flying Saucer -Great bar if you like beer....250 different to choose from. Also good bar food.

    - Chipotle -I'm sure we all know Chipotle

    - Whopper Bar - Think a Burger King where you can also drink...some new concept they are
    doing.

    - 801 Steakhouse -High end steakhouse out of Des Moines

    - Bristol -Love this place. Quality seafood and nice bar setup. Love this place.

    - Frans - 24 hour diner setup....nothing spectacular... the more you drink, the better it gets.

    - Drunken Fish - New to KC, started in St. Louis.....sushi...it's okay. Very clubby.

    - Mixx – Lunch only, they have good salads and sandwiches

    - AMC Mainstreet theatre -Coolest theatre I've ever been in, can take liquor into the theatres.
    Nice jazz type bar called Marquee attached.

    - Kobe -Japanese grill as well as a sushi bar in the back.

    - Balsano’s – New Gelato shop. Also serves breakfast and deli food.

    - Garment District /Lovebird /Envolve /Zafar - Cool little clothing boutiques, mostly female
    clothing but some guy stuff. Great way to spend some time shopping

    - Cosentinos - This is the grocery store for downtown residents but also does a lot of premade
    food for lunch. Will get swamped. Worth checking out just as a cool grocery store....has liquor
    for hotel room stock up

    - Teadrops -Good place to duck in for some tea and light snack.

    - MeMa Bakery - Cool local bakery and does lunch stuff too

    - LatteLand -Local KC coffeehouse. ..not open too late most nights unfortunatel y

    Other areas of KC Westport -ISU fans love Kellys of course....there are other cool bars here
    including Harpos, Harrys, McCoys, Beer Kitchen to name a few....some good local eateries here
    as well. Definitely more unique and organic than the P&L district. Westport is approx. 39th and
    Broadway.

    Martini Corner - at 31st & Gillham...taxi would be easiest....some fun bars here including Sol,
    Velvet Dog, Tower Tavern, and Drop. Not much in the way of food.

    Plaza - The Country Club Plaza is the best shopping in KC. Right on the MAX bus route at 47th
    & Main. Some good dining...more chains year after year and a couple of okay bars including
    Fred p. otts, Grandfallon, and Tomfooleries. Some cool new places have opened up here in the
    past year including Gram & Dunn, Seasons 52, and Zocolo (food questionable here). A couple
    new stores including H&M have opened as well.

    River Market - Cool downtown neighborhood that has a farmers market on Saturday and some of
    the best dining of all kinds of nationalities including Blue Nile, Bo Lings, Hien Vuong. Minskys
    is a good pizza place (delivers downtown).

    Crossroads -Artsy downtown neighborhood just south of the Sprint Center....some cool dining
    and bars.

    18th & Vine -A neighborhood trying to get a foothold. Worth a visit just for the Negro League
    Baseball Museum.

    Brookside /Waldo - Two great neighborhoods with some cool local bars

    Other attractions If you need other things to do, here are my picks:

    - Auto show is going on at Bartle Hall downtown

    - Titantic exhibit at Union Station

    - Negro League Baseball – 18th & Vine

    - WWI national monument – Crown Center. Great war history.

    - Crown Center /Union Station great for families...countless things to do here

    - Nelson Atkins Art museum -Cool thing is they will be having the original rules of basketball on
    display during the tournament.

    - Steamboat Arbia museum -Rivermarket neighborhood...they dug up a sunken river boat and its
    on display.

    - Shopping -Plaza has the best, Crown Center has some stores, the best malls would be
    Independence Center, Zona Rosa, and Oak Park Mall

    - College Basketball Experience -Cool collegiate museum and basketball drill type
    setup....attached to sprint center.

    Good overall website /twitter accounts

    - KC Star - www.kansascity.com

    - Downtown KC - http://www.downtownkc.org/

    - Power and Light District - http://www.powerandlightdistrict.com

    - Visitors Association -http://www.visitkc.com

    - Sprint Center -http://www.sprintcenter.com

    -@big12conference - Usually keeps up to date for tournament

    -@downtownkc - My twitter account. Hit me up and I'll help you out with your question


    Last edited by kcpowercat; 03-05-2012 at 06:30 PM. Reason: 2012 update

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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Good work! I'm new to the area so this helps me out as well! I'll be at Kelly's in Westport 90% of the time with a few other Cyclone fans. We've got a little tradition going with Kelly's and Joe's Pizza!
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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Geez, pretty vague post.....haha jk, thanks for taking the time to share this with us. Lots of good tips, I can't wait!



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    I can say the walk form the Sprint Center to the Hyatt is a little much... My wife and I walked it a couple years ago after a Dave Mathews concert... It wasnt a bad walk, and the neighborhoods were ok(we never felt threatned) but it was a 30 to 45 min walk....But Im sure they will aslo be offering a shuttle as well.... Probably the best place to stay in KC!!



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    KC,

    In my opinion, it solely depends on what you plan to use it for. FYI, I did hobby woodworking for 30+ yrs. without an electric jointer. A couple of yrs ago I decided to purchase one and had my eye set on this machine (new). Woodworkers.com put them on sale, but I was too late. Then, a fellow creeker told me about a 6" Steel City long bed on sale at the local Woodsmith store. I purchased it and am so glad I missed the sale on the Delta 4". While I don't do a lot of face jointing yet, the 6" width is great when I do. I can see why other creekers favor the 8" (or wider). I also love the long bed - the longer the bed - should mean the straighter the finished product. Personally, I think this is a good price and you likely should be able to hold your money together if you resell it. Bottom line, does it fit your needs?



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Is the tournament in KC next year as well?



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Just to clarify, the Vertical Herizon concert is on Wednesday night, not Friday night and is a 21+ event only, so the kids are not able to attend.



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    We stayed at Hotel Phillips last year and being able to just park the car for the week and walk to everything in the P&L District was awesome. Unfortunately we aren't able to go this year and looks like the hotels in that area this year have caught up to the demand with their prices. We got Hotel Phillips for $140 a night last year which was by far the best deal when most other hotels nearby there were around $200 or more. When I was looking at hotels over the winter in case we decided to go Hotel Phillips was about $209 a night this year during the tourney so I can imagine a lot of the other places downtown jacked up their prices too. I'm guessing if we go next year might have to stay in the Plaza area and cab ride it at nights.

    The tourney is a blast now with the P&L district being right there next to the Sprint Center. I feel bad for Kelly's because the area they are in has just gone to crap the past few years and it's somewhat of a drive now to get there compared to when it was at Kemper and there was no P&L District to compete with.


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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Added new info to the original post including bracket link, practice times, and TV listings for all markets for those who can't make it to KC.

    Fun game yesterday between KSU and ISU.....it will be fun to see the Mayor build you guys up. Go beat CU Wednesday.

    Given the new idiotic schedule from the Big 12 (Wed. starting this is horrible for fans) and the fact that no local teams are in that first session, you guys will be able to get your first game tickets for probably nothing.


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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Good info powercat. Wish I could go. Daughter lives in KC but unable to attend. Power and Light is a blast usually. Always wanted to go to Big 12 tourney. Have had a great time on Indianapolis which is a great venue for Big Ten. Is Big 12 in KC again next year?



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Nihawk View Post
    Good info powercat. Wish I could go. Daughter lives in KC but unable to attend. Power and Light is a blast usually. Always wanted to go to Big 12 tourney. Have had a great time on Indianapolis which is a great venue for Big Ten. Is Big 12 in KC again next year?
    It's in KC the next 3 years until 2014. Hasn't been announced past that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kcpowercat View Post
    It's in KC the next 3 years until 2014. Hasn't been announced past that.
    Thanks! Hopefully next year. Last time I made Big 10 tourney Hawks made finals.



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Well sorry to dig this thread back up but would love to hear any feedback from fans who came to KC for the tournament positive or negative...feel free to post here or email me at downtownkc@gmail.com Thanks.



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Bumping this up for 2012. Safe travels for all headed down. Should be a fun year.



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    Re: Big 12 tournament KC info FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by kcpowercat View Post
    Bumping this up for 2012. Safe travels for all headed down. Should be a fun year.
    Where is Bar Louie? That is the ISU 'bar' in the P&L according to the alumni website.



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