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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    BS on all of it. The "point" to the counterpoint was in the Hawk's favor too. Sad.

    Sad, and horribly wrong. History will prove that. Not even a question in my mind about that.

    3rd edit- and I think Fran is a decent coach.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    So much to laugh at in that article.

    "When it’s all said and done, it’s safe to assume McCaffery will have a better overall career in the Hawkeye State."

    "[Iowa State] has won just two conference games in the weaker Big 12"

    Silly Iowa journalism students.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Hlas thinks McCaffery is laying a great foundation in IC and throws a comment about Hoiberg in there:

    Hlas column: Technically speaking, Fran McCaffery is dominating the Big Ten | TheGazette



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Cooler nickname White Magic vs. The Mayor??? Sorry unless White Magic is referring to Charlie Sheen, The Mayor wins everytime.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Why is the Big XII weaker? I don't see how that point can be made.


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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    Hlas thinks McCaffery is laying a great foundation in IC and throws a comment about Hoiberg in there:

    Hlas column: Technically speaking, Fran McCaffery is dominating the Big Ten | TheGazette
    Nice. That is a funny headline for a 10 win team.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Quote Originally Posted by jay moe View Post
    Why is the Big XII weaker? I don't see how that point can be made.
    Easy, Hawk logic. Since the B12 didn't lose a game to the B10 this year it must be a weaker conference.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    I think that this year is up for debate. But, to me it is crazy to say that McCaffery has recruited better than Fred. Oglesby and Aaron White? Please. Those guys are role players in a BCS conference. I think that ISU is set up better in the short term, as far as next year and the year after. Long term, it remains to be seen whether Fred's or Fran's strategy is better. Fran is going to have to somehow get some momentum going and start recruiting better if he wants to get out of the hole.

    I would also disagree with calling it the "weaker" Big 12.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    That might be one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my entire life. Not that I would expect anything different from the Iowa paper, but still.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    The only real answer about which coach was the best hire will become evident five years from now. Both guys are coaching bad teams right now.



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Easy, Hawk logic. Since the B12 didn't lose a game to the B10 this year it must be a weaker conference.
    Yea. Seriously, the big 12 went 7 - 0 (unless I missed one) against the little eleven this year. How is this even debatable...



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    Better recruitment by Fran?

    Isn't our class for next year ranked 16th??



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    and he didn't even mention Chris Allen in that article



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    Re: Hoiberg Better vs. MacCaffery

    The Daily Iowan is a student newspaper which makes it worthless. The conference strength and recruiting comments are tragically stupid.


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