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    How many freshman redshirt?

    I was looking over the roster and I came to the conclusion that it will be at least half of them. Is this high, low, or normal for a recruiting class?

    This is who I think will RS:
    J Miller
    D Smith
    Q Bundrage
    R Standard
    D Cotton
    S Richardson
    T Ecby
    B Dagel
    T Lampkin
    S Richardson
    D Irving
    J Lalk
    D Lemke
    O Moile
    J Daniels

    That's 15 out of 23. Can you still pitch playing time, just after a RS year? I could possibly see one of the receivers get some PT.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    don't think miller, and maybe omoille.

    otherwise i think that might be close.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNick View Post
    I was looking over the roster and I came to the conclusion that it will be at least half of them. Is this high, low, or normal for a recruiting class?

    This is who I think will RS:
    J Miller
    D Smith
    Q Bundrage
    R Standard
    D Cotton
    S Richardson
    T Ecby
    B Dagel
    T Lampkin
    S Richardson
    D Irving
    J Lalk
    D Lemke
    O Moile
    J Daniels

    That's 15 out of 23. Can you still pitch playing time, just after a RS year? I could possibly see one of the receivers get some PT.
    I'm gonna say Irving, Omoile, maybe lampkin, maybe bundrage, possibly donald smith don't redshirt.

    Irving has the size to play now, Omoile will compete for a starting spot, lampkin could return kicks/punts, bundrage has a slight possibility of playing if our WRs don't step up, and we are very think at LB so I could see Smith playing ST or being a reserve.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNick View Post
    I was looking over the roster and I came to the conclusion that it will be at least half of them. Is this high, low, or normal for a recruiting class?

    This is who I think will RS:
    J Miller
    D Smith
    Q Bundrage
    R Standard
    D Cotton
    S Richardson
    T Ecby
    B Dagel
    T Lampkin
    S Richardson
    D Irving
    J Lalk
    D Lemke
    O Moile
    J Daniels

    That's 15 out of 23. Can you still pitch playing time, just after a RS year? I could possibly see one of the receivers get some PT.
    Miller won't. I don't thing Irving will. Lampkin is 50/50 in my opinion and actually all the receivers have an opportunity to play. It's nice to be able to redshirt as many as you can but when you are where ISU is, you would also like to be able to upgrade a talent to the level that the new guys are displacing some of the older ones.


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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    I'm gonna say Irving, Omoile, maybe lampkin, maybe bundrage, possibly donald smith don't redshirt.

    Irving has the size to play now, Omoile will compete for a starting spot, lampkin could return kicks/punts, bundrage has a slight possibility of playing if our WRs don't step up, and we are very think at LB so I could see Smith playing ST or being a reserve.
    I have to disagree on Omoile competing to start. I think (and hope) we have the luxury to RS him. Isn't he only like 16 years old? Give him time to develop, the kid could turn into a monster in a few years!



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Have a feeling that Lampkin may get a chance to play right away if he can prove he is an upgrade.


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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    I don't see a spot for Oni unless one to two starters get hurt this year. Would love to RS him.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    I think I confused oni with the juco center



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by HardcoreClone View Post
    Omoile. . . . Isn't he only like 16 years old?
    I thought this, too. Actually, in recruiting day interviews, one of our coaches said Oni was 16 years old, but the bio released by the Athletics Department stated Oni will be 18 in June (iirc). (Just checked: "Born June 24, 1993")


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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    I don't thing Irving will.
    Oooo, nifty. I'm a big fan of this kid since reading about his abilities AND his appreciation for Jack Trice (the individual). I'd love to see DI be ready to play.

    DI hasn't been playing football long, iirc. Why do you believe he'll be ready to contribute? Athleticism and size alone? From newspaper articles published in his area of the country, I gleaned that DI has a defense-type, no-nonsense attitude. Maybe he will make a contribution this fall.


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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Have a feeling that Lampkin may get a chance to play right away if he can prove he is an upgrade.
    I agree that Lampkin could see the field early. I've always thought that Lenz was a lock a punt returner, but maybe the combination of Lenz becoming a more important part of the offense and Lampkin proving he can handle the job could keep Lampkin from seeing a RS.

    I could see D Smith and J miller getting PT on ST just because you need their size on that unit.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    The staff said that Irving was the gem of the c lass. I think that he still was, even after Pompey committed. If he can learn quicly, I think that he could see almost as much action as Jason Berryman did as a frosh. Of course, there should be a little better depth than when Berryman was a frosh--but DI adds a dimension that JB didn't. Length. Even when he can't get to the passer, some of those shorter guys are going to have some problems.

    For some reason, I keep thinking "L.C. Greenwood" when I look at him. And I'm not a Steelers fan.

    BTW--I'd think that West would fill the role that would allow Lampkin a redshirt.


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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Honestly, given Irving's lack of experience...and being a bit undersized in weight terms...a redshirt seems very likely. Add in that we have a solid 4 deep at DE with Lattimer and Nelson likely starting, backed by Maggit and Neal...and barring injuries, it seems best to give the kid a year to add strength and learn how to play at the D1 level.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyValley View Post
    Oooo, nifty. I'm a big fan of this kid since reading about his abilities AND his appreciation for Jack Trice (the individual). I'd love to see DI be ready to play.

    DI hasn't been playing football long, iirc. Why do you believe he'll be ready to contribute? Athleticism and size alone? From newspaper articles published in his area of the country, I gleaned that DI has a defense-type, no-nonsense attitude. Maybe he will make a contribution this fall.
    I would say just on size alone he might get some PT. 6'7" and a legit 250 makes him the only DE that staff has that is the tall, big, physically imposing DE that that staff is looking for. Rony Nelson is the only other DE that I think has the type of athleticism and physical build right now that the staff really wants. I'm not saying he will play half the snaps, but I think some playing time isn't out of the question.

    That being said, if we could redshirt him, that would only be a good thing for future teams. Our Dline would have to step it up significantly IMO for that to happen though.



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    Re: How many freshman redshirt?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNick View Post
    I agree that Lampkin could see the field early. I've always thought that Lenz was a lock a punt returner, but maybe the combination of Lenz becoming a more important part of the offense and Lampkin proving he can handle the job could keep Lampkin from seeing a RS.

    I could see D Smith and J miller getting PT on ST just because you need their size on that unit.
    I think Lampkin, and most of the players, for that matter, redshirt. Jarvis West will likely take the spot Lampkin could fill, IMO. I think the only players who might NOT redshirt are Pompey and the jucos, and some of those are iffy too.

    I also think Lynn has a chance to see the field, mostly because we are a little thin at CB, but also because he appears to be pretty talented. I would have added Nealy, but I think because he is recovering from a knee injury suffered in high school, combined with the fact that we are pretty deep at RB right now, a redshirt year is the sensible option for him.

    I think Nealy is the more talented of the two RBs in the class, but I think if any of them sees playing time as a true frosh because of injuries or whatnot (knock on wood), it will be Standard, not Nealy, for the reasons mentioned above.



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