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    Why not?

    JVB is out for awhile (those high ankle sprains can take a long time to heal) and our season (which we knew going in was a throw-away) is in the tank. Why not give Railey and McKnight more playing time? CFH gets to see them in more game situations and they get the benefit of additional court time.

    We're in the middle of a really tough stretch - 4 ranked teams, 3 of them on the road. More PT right now might give those guys a leg up on next year.

    Guess I'm just trying to find a silver lining to this season. Yes, I was drunk on kool-aid at the end of the non-conference schedule.



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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by dtISU View Post
    JVB is out for awhile (those high ankle sprains can take a long time to heal) and our season (which we knew going in was a throw-away) is in the tank. Why not give Railey and McKnight more playing time? CFH gets to see them in more game situations and they get the benefit of additional court time.

    We're in the middle of a really tough stretch - 4 ranked teams, 3 of them on the road. More PT right now might give those guys a leg up on next year.

    Guess I'm just trying to find a silver lining to this season. Yes, I was drunk on kool-aid at the end of the non-conference schedule.
    How do you explain that to a senior that their last season of basketball is a "throw away"?


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    Re: Why not?

    I've never understood calling a season a throw-away.

    First off, when ISU was sitting at 14-2, nobody on this board thought the season was going to be a throw-away. Everybody here had hopes for a post-season of some sort, and were penciling in a middle of the pack Big 12 finish as a lock. Hell, we even had NCAA Tourney predictions.

    Now, all of the sudden, in the midst of a pretty bad streak, the season is back to being a "throw-away". Where was this "rational" thinking 4 weeks ago? Why should the team view this year as a throw away?


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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    I've never understood calling a season a throw-away.

    First off, when ISU was sitting at 14-2, nobody on this board thought the season was going to be a throw-away. Everybody here had hopes for a post-season of some sort, and were penciling in a middle of the pack Big 12 finish as a lock. Hell, we even had NCAA Tourney predictions.

    Now, all of the sudden, in the midst of a pretty bad streak, the season is back to being a "throw-away". Where was this "rational" thinking 4 weeks ago? Why should the team view this year as a throw away?
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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    How do you explain that to a senior that their last season of basketball is a "throw away"?
    11 of the 12 Big12 coaches selected us last in the conference. I'm not saying anything about the effort given by these young men - only that expectations for this year were, shall we say, rather low. Coupled with the redshirts we've all come to know and love, this season has had an overtone of "get us to next year."



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    Re: Why not?

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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by dtISU View Post
    11 of the 12 Big12 coaches selected us last in the conference. I'm not saying anything about the effort given by these young men - only that expectations for this year were, shall we say, rather low. Coupled with the redshirts we've all come to know and love, this season has had an overtone of "get us to next year."
    So, what you're saying is that the season was a throw-away before it even began because of how the coaches in the conference voted...?




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    Re: Why not?

    Trust me our seniors probably would not mind a few breaks in the game. Jake Anderson is dying out there. Give him some winders and get the young guys a little more time. I get what the OP is saying.


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    Re: Why not?

    I think they will get more playing time, by default if nothing else. Also, Godfrey will too, I think his suspension is finished now.



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    Re: Why not?

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    Re: Why not?

    Railey averages more than a foul per TV timeout guessing both will get minutes with JVB out.


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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Trust me our seniors probably would not mind a few breaks in the game. Jake Anderson is dying out there. Give him some winders and get the young guys a little more time. I get what the OP is saying.
    With all the mins these guys are playing, Uncle Jake is going to be Grandpa Jake by the B12 tourney.


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    Re: Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by SplitIdentity View Post
    I've never understood calling a season a throw-away.

    First off, when ISU was sitting at 14-2, nobody on this board thought the season was going to be a throw-away. Everybody here had hopes for a post-season of some sort, and were penciling in a middle of the pack Big 12 finish as a lock. Hell, we even had NCAA Tourney predictions.

    Now, all of the sudden, in the midst of a pretty bad streak, the season is back to being a "throw-away". Where was this "rational" thinking 4 weeks ago? Why should the team view this year as a throw away?
    I hate the term "throwaway" -- I've seen in posted time and again. Maybe it's just a word choice —*maybe we could go with "anticipated mulligan season."

    You're correct that nobody assessed the season like that when it was 14-2 (or even 14-4) ... now it's revisionist, just so fans don't feel so crushed by the downtown.

    There were limited expectations in preseason, but i didn't see anyone referring to it as throwaway even at that point.

    Maybe I'm in the minority, but I still hope this team can reach postseason. NIT is almost certainly the ceiling, and it's hard to have confidence ISU can actually string together enough wins, considering the remaining schedule the results to this point.



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    Re: Why not?

    You play the game to win. If you aren't going to try to win, don't bother showing up. McKnight playing leaves us no chance to win.



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    Re: Why not?

    Won't these guys have to play more with JVB hurt? And the beauty of college basketball is that every single team in the entire country still has the opportunity to go to the NCAA tournament. Obviously thats not very realistic for us but in college bball your season isnt over until you lose in your conference tourney. Remember Georgia a few years back?



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