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    Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    The likelihood that the NFL will lock out its players on March 4 now stands at an all-time high after Thursday's scheduled negotiating session between the league and the players' union was canceled. Multiple sources familiar with the talks said the owners' side walked out of Wednesday's meeting due to a disagreement over the talks' most fundamental issue -- the manner in which the players and owners will split the NFL's approximately $9 billion revenue pie.

    The union has been demanding that the owners open their books to demonstrate the financial hardship they've been citing in an effort to get the players to accept a smaller share of revenue. But according to two of the sources, the players said Wednesday that they would drop that demand in exchange for a 50 percent cut of "all revenue," meaning the total $9 billion pot.

    The reason this is a non-starter for the NFL is that it doesn't currently share "all revenue" with the players but rather a smaller pool it calls "total revenue." The league and the owners take $1 billion off the top for operating costs before splitting any revenue with the players.When they say the players get roughly 60 percent of revenue under the current deal, they're talking about 60 percent of "total revenue," meaning after that first $1 billion comes off the top.

    The owners, seeking in this deal to increase their share of the revenue, would like to take an additional $1 billion off the top, meaning the portion of revenue they'd share with the players would drop to roughly $7 billion. The players have said they'd like to see audited financial statements to justify such a hit, but the sources said Wednesday that they'd stop asking for that if the owners would agree simply to split the whole (roughly $9 billion) pot evenly. The owners apparently walked out after hearing that proposal.
    NFL Labor Talks Canceled as Lockout Looms Larger Than Ever -- NFL FanHouse



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    effffff...


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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Kind of hard to feel sorry for any of them (players or owners). None of them fully realize how good they have it. Billions of $$ for playing a game.



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Greed. Selfishness. Posturing. Big stakes. Drama. Me-itis. Priceless.


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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    owners should have just kept it at $1billion and kept their mouths shut.



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    This has its ups and downs, but I can live with Green Bay being reigning Super Bowl Champions for another year



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Who cares (outside of players and owners) about March 4th? As fans, that is a meaningless deadline unless you are one that lives to get up in the morning and read the transaction column in the sports page. The deadline for fans is really the beginning of training camps. Both sides will come to an agreement that will not take games from the season...no way will it come to that.



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Chance of a lockout? IMO about 1%

    And I agree, who cares about March 4th. I'm talking about them missing any games due to lockout



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    I wouldn't mind a lockout. More free time and a year to let people realize they can live without the NFL. I love football, but I don't have a lot of sympathy here.



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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    Who cares (outside of players and owners) about March 4th? As fans, that is a meaningless deadline unless you are one that lives to get up in the morning and read the transaction column in the sports page. The deadline for fans is really the beginning of training camps. Both sides will come to an agreement that will not take games from the season...no way will it come to that.
    Yes it will. They'll end up with a 9 game half-season.


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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Question:
    Can an NFL lockout help ISU football 3-4 years down the road?

    Reason I ask:
    I am far from a recruiting expert. But my understanding is that in Football you're limited to total number of scholarships on the team. If there is a lockout in the NFL and all the players that would go pro early at the big dogs stay around an extra year, that adds up to a lot of scholly offers that TX and OU and Bama and Auburn etc can't use on the next class in. Whereas we don't have 8-10 guys we'll keep because they don't enter the NFL early. Essentially moving us up in the pecking order for the recruiting class next year because the top of the recruiting class will spread down the pecking order. So any school below those with NFL guys leaving early benefit as the gap between the haves and have nots is narrowed.

    I could be wrong that's why I'm asking. Thoughts?


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    Re: Lockout Looming Larger than Ever as Talks Break Down

    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonMagic View Post
    Yes it will. They'll end up with a 9 game half-season.
    Players will cave prior to that happening. What is the average length of an NFL career? 4 years or something? Players don't want to give up 1/8 of their career earnings.

    I don't know but I don't see players being united like the owners will be.



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