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    Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    With Drake beating UNI last night does that make ISU mythical state champs? Drake finished in state play 1-3, UNI 2-2, and Iowa and ISU 2-1. Since the first tie breaker is always head to head and the Clones won in Iowa City that should make us state champs! Will we be awarded the four sided triangle trophy that some TV station sponsors for this stellar achievement?



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    The real question is does anyone care? I would much rather be in the position Iowa is in, with a close loss to ISU, but two solid wins in a row, one on the road, 3 conference wins, and a probability of getting 5-6 conference wins and momentum going into next season.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    I actually think the transfers give us a good amount of momentum


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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone83 View Post
    With Drake beating UNI last night does that make ISU mythical state champs? Drake finished in state play 1-3, UNI 2-2, and Iowa and ISU 2-1. Since the first tie breaker is always head to head and the Clones won in Iowa City that should make us state champs! Will we be awarded the four sided triangle trophy that some TV station sponsors for this stellar achievement?
    No, only the first UNI/Drake game counts for this super duper important award. UNI, Iowa, and ISU all went 2-1 and Drake went 0-3. Not really sure who wins it.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by ubuntuCAT View Post
    No, only the first UNI/Drake game counts for this super duper important award. UNI, Iowa, and ISU all went 2-1 and Drake went 0-3. Not really sure who wins it.
    Well, that's stupid. If that is really how it works, I'd give it to us anyway because we were the only team of those three to play 2/3 on the road then.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneState1028 View Post
    Well, that's stupid. If that is really how it works, I'd give it to us anyway because we were the only team of those three to play 2/3 on the road then.
    Well they have to pick one of 2 games between UNI/Drake or it wouldn't be a fair competition. Not that I really care about this but I do wonder who wins it. Seems reasonable for ISU to win cuz 2/3 were on the road.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Yay, moral victory!


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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    At this point, it really seems unimportant. The wins against Drake and Iowa were two months ago, which feels a lot longer than that. Now we're in the midst of a major losing streak with no real end in the near future.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    The only time you can be State Champ is to beat all the other schools. None of this "2-1 and we were on the road for most of them" business. That's like using BCS standings to determine which Big 12 south school goes to the conference championship game...



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone83 View Post
    With Drake beating UNI last night does that make ISU mythical state champs? Drake finished in state play 1-3, UNI 2-2, and Iowa and ISU 2-1. Since the first tie breaker is always head to head and the Clones won in Iowa City that should make us state champs! Will we be awarded the four sided triangle trophy that some TV station sponsors for this stellar achievement?
    The only teams that would claim a state "championship" without actually beating everyone is Drake and UNI. No WAY Iowa or ISU should be claiming anything unless they sweep. Even then, I would just say we beat Iowa or Iowa beat us. UNI having a few good years doesn't elevate them to rival in my book.


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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    The real question is does anyone care? I would much rather be in the position Iowa is in, with a close loss to ISU, but two solid wins in a row, one on the road, 3 conference wins, and a probability of getting 5-6 conference wins and momentum going into next season.
    No one should EVER prefer to be Iowa. EVER.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    The way I figure it, each team gets 1 point for a win except for UNI/Drake games in which each team gets 0.5 points because they play twice. Two-way ties are decided by head-to-head games. Three-way ties result in three-way co-champs.

    If you figure it this way, we just won our 9th mythical state title (22 have been played and there was one three-way tie). Iowa has won 8, UNI has won 4 and Drake has won 3.


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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    I'm pretty sure UNI and/or Drake are the only ones that use this pitch in recruiting. Doubt we're trying to sell the Peter Jok's of the world on the fact we're "mythical state champs".



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    The real question is does anyone care? I would much rather be in the position Iowa is in, with a close loss to ISU, but two solid wins in a row, one on the road, 3 conference wins, and a probability of getting 5-6 conference wins and momentum going into next season.
    Have you seen the big ten this year? Minus OSU and Wisky, they are terrible and overrated. And Iowa just beat MSU(who has gone drastically downhill) and Indiana(the worst team in the big ten). I would call those solid wins.



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    Re: Cyclones State of Iowa Champs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    The way I figure it, each team gets 1 point for a win except for UNI/Drake games in which each team gets 0.5 points because they play twice. Two-way ties are decided by head-to-head games. Three-way ties result in three-way co-champs.

    If you figure it this way, we just won our 9th mythical state title (22 have been played and there was one three-way tie). Iowa has won 8, UNI has won 4 and Drake has won 3.
    That wouldn't make sense. Two teams would have to win 3 games while the other two would have to win 4 games which is obviously more difficult.

    I'm fine with the first UNI/Drake game being the one that counts. (If anyone really cares).



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