Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17
  1. #1
    Starter
    Points: 25,213, Level: 48
    Level completed: 67%, Points required for next Level: 337
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    ManBearClone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    675
    Points
    25,213
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 88
    Given: 92

    2 for 1 possession?

    Ok this is really my first real criticism of CFH. But why wouldn't you try to get a 2 to 1 possession with 46 secs left in the game? You have a good six or seven seconds to work with.



  2. #2
    All-Star
    Points: 26,634, Level: 50
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 916
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cyclone1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Grimes
    Posts
    1,493
    Points
    26,634
    Level
    50
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 3

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    because we had the lead. why would you want to give the opposing team more time?



  3. #3
    Legend
    Points: 163,841, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 52.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Here nor there
    Posts
    12,171
    Points
    163,841
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 674
    Given: 975

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    With the lead you want two rushed possessions of under 6 seconds?



  4. #4
    Starter
    Points: 25,213, Level: 48
    Level completed: 67%, Points required for next Level: 337
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    ManBearClone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    675
    Points
    25,213
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 88
    Given: 92

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Instead of one rushed shot under six seconds. Yeah I would. Plus no guarantee the second possession would only be six seconds. Even so six seconds is better then the 2.6 we had.



  5. #5
    Pro
    Points: 58,649, Level: 75
    Level completed: 7%, Points required for next Level: 1,401
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    CloneState1028's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Ames, IA via Cedar Rapids
    Posts
    3,273
    Points
    58,649
    Level
    75
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    He has a point. We make our only possession with a lot of time just six seconds by standing at half-court instead of running an offense.



  6. #6
    Speechless
    Points: 405,828, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 82.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    60,479
    Points
    405,828
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 788
    Given: 514

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    There was time to run for two possessions on our part, but we went to the looser strategy and let them back into the game. Still think put the ball in SCs hands and he can pass to DG for a shot. If this happens one more time and we lose, we just frittered away the NCAA/NIT/CBA trying to prove that the DG 1 on 4 works. I think CFDHG went one more time to well to let DG prove that he could make the shot in front of the home crowd. It does not work in the Big 12 in the last minute. The missed SC shot did not help either. The Bubu cramp did not help.


    Let my Fred's Posse Ride: Georges, Naz, Hogue, Bryce, Nader, Monte, Matt, and McKay.

  7. #7
    All-Star
    Points: 26,634, Level: 50
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 916
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cyclone1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Grimes
    Posts
    1,493
    Points
    26,634
    Level
    50
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 3

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearClone View Post
    Instead of one rushed shot under six seconds. Yeah I would. Plus no guarantee the second possession would only be six seconds. Even so six seconds is better then the 2.6 we had.
    No. This is rediculous. With lead, you limit the amount of time and possessions for the opposing team. Trailing, you want to lengthen the game and get more possessions.

    We had the lead. No way would you give them a full 35 seconds to run a play, or a couple plays, or have a chance at offensive boards.

    If we were down by one, yes, then play for a two for one.



  8. #8
    Legend
    Points: 163,841, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 52.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Here nor there
    Posts
    12,171
    Points
    163,841
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 674
    Given: 975

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneState1028 View Post
    He has a point. We make our only possession with a lot of time just six seconds by standing at half-court instead of running an offense.
    Quick or hasty, your call.
    The more possessions there are, the greater the chance we lose.



  9. #9
    Pro
    Points: 53,542, Level: 71
    Level completed: 67%, Points required for next Level: 508
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Ry4Cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    3,233
    Points
    53,542
    Level
    71
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 18
    Given: 7

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone1985 View Post
    No. This is rediculous. With lead, you limit the amount of time and possessions for the opposing team. Trailing, you want to lengthen the game and get more possessions.

    We had the lead. No way would you give them a full 35 seconds to run a play, or a couple plays, or have a chance at offensive boards.

    If we were down by one, yes, then play for a two for one.
    yeah your right because this is working for us so well so far



  10. #10
    Legend
    Points: 163,841, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 52.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Here nor there
    Posts
    12,171
    Points
    163,841
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 674
    Given: 975

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry4Cy View Post
    yeah your right because this is working for us so well so far
    Given what we have seen, what indications do you have that having more possessions when we have the lead would be better? The mistakes we are making would propagate enough to offset any advantage.



  11. #11
    All-Star
    Points: 26,634, Level: 50
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 916
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cyclone1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Grimes
    Posts
    1,493
    Points
    26,634
    Level
    50
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8
    Given: 3

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry4Cy View Post
    yeah your right because this is working for us so well so far
    This is basketball common sense. You give the opposing team the least amount of time to score. With 15 seconds, they are going to have to take a shot on their first look whether its a good look or not. You give them 35 seconds...well heck, now they can potentially have 5 or 6 different looks and opportunities at offensive boards, your defense has to play balls to the wall for a full 35 seconds, you cannot foul in that 35 seconds, etc.

    Get it yet?



  12. #12
    All-Star
    Points: 21,788, Level: 45
    Level completed: 16%, Points required for next Level: 762
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Greensboro, NC
    Posts
    1,556
    Points
    21,788
    Level
    45
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 14
    Given: 0

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    What I do get is DG 1 on 4 missed shot and Pullen, preseason Big 12 player of the year, ended up with a made layup. Game Over!



  13. #13
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 62,979, Level: 77
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 271
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Ficklone02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    City by the Bay
    Posts
    3,959
    Points
    62,979
    Level
    77
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 15
    Given: 52

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    The first thing that comes to mind is....we are a poor rebounding team, if we take a quick shot there's no guarantee we'll get the ball back.



  14. #14
    Pro
    Points: 39,028, Level: 60
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 22
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    cycfan1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    3,017
    Points
    39,028
    Level
    60
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 96
    Given: 4

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    The real screw up: Last play throw the ball to half court call a timeout.

    Reset - run a good play with two seconds left.

    Ran it perfect, just forgot the timeout.



  15. #15
    Prospect
    Points: 5,405, Level: 21
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 145
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    66
    Points
    5,405
    Level
    21
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: 2 for 1 possession?

    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearClone View Post
    Ok this is really my first real criticism of CFH. But why wouldn't you try to get a 2 to 1 possession with 46 secs left in the game? You have a good six or seven seconds to work with.
    Absolutely. Running down the clock hasn't been working, so get a quick shot. Then, if necessary, foul KSU, you get the ball back at worst down one with a chance at the winning shot. The coaches need to use some imagination.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Fox Sports Net
  • BASKETBALL: Iowa State vs. Alabama
  • November 24, 2014
  • 08:30 PM