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    Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    I want to preface this by saying this is all hypothetical, and the basis is to settle a dumb debate. Flame all you want.

    A co-worker (A MSU alum/big fan) and I were discussing and comparing our two coaches, i made the comment that if given the choice right now between the two, i'd take The Mayor as the coach at ISU. the main drivers behind my bold statement were:

    Age: Izzo wont be coaching forever, Fred has just begun his long (hopefully) career

    Long-term stability: If Fred has even a little success, i feel he will be here for the long term, with little doubt he will go onto another program or the next level. Same cannot be said about Izzo.

    This Year: Though Izzo has had some amazing success, i believe you can make an argument he has lost his team, despite returning the vast majority of their final four team from last year, its a toss-up if they will make the tourney this year. This was to prove he is not Jesus like many Spartan faithful make him out to be.

    The Mayor factor: Last and most importantly, Tom Izzo could not score 17 straight points against Kansas.


    Any other delusional fans out there?



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Of course you're right. Let Me Mayor Coach!

    Why? Because he's the Mayor.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    You're nuts. I'll take Izzo.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Izzo is only 56, so really not that old. He could easily be coaching another 10 years.

    I do think Hoiberg will end up being at ISU for a long time, especially if he can keep bringing in solid players, but at this point you'd have to take Izzo. He is proven and has done it over and over.

    Izzo does make over 3x more per year, so if you factor that in.. it might make a difference!



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Izzo is a god when it comes to coaching! Has done a tremendous job at MSU! It does seem as though he might have lost this team but no one will want to play MSU at the end of the season. His teams are tough at crunch time. Will they fold before that? Not sure.

    Wonder if his flirtation with Cleveland has anything to do with this struggle? I don't blame him for listening...I would not have blamed him for taking that huge offer even though Cleveland is bad. He seems to be a first-class guy all the way.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    You are crazy. Izzo is a proven winner, remove the cardinal glasses buddy.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    LET ME MAYOR COACH FOR SURE!



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    You're debating whether to take a first year head coach, or a hall of fame to be coach? This seems to be the epitomy of bias.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    I'd take Izzo in a heartbeat and that comes from someone who loves letting me mayor coach.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Quote Originally Posted by burn587 View Post
    I'd take Izzo in a heartbeat and that comes from someone who loves letting me mayor coach.
    Whoa, now...hold on there.

    You either Let Me Mayor Coach or you don't. Which is it?



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    These are all valid responses, some great insight. Thanks for clearing this up.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Wow, we get a few guys run off by MSU and all of a sudden Fred's being mentioned in the same breath as Tom Izzo? I'll have what you're having.



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    1. Take the number of conference games Fred has won as a head coach.
    2. Now multiply that number by six.
    3. The product is the number of freakin' final fours that Izzo has been to.

    So yeah, I really understand your decision to choose Fred.






    P.S. let me mayor coach



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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    Let Me Izzo Coach?


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    Re: Izzo vs. Hoiberg

    You would take an unproven coach over one that has been to the final 4 time after time again. You need to stay out of the Koolaid.


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