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    Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    The players have legitimate concerns. Owners seek to implement an 18-game season at a time the league has toughened policies on concussions and player safety. Specifics of a rookie salary cap must be ironed out. No team has reported a financial loss yet owners seek to reduce the players' cut 18 percent to cover costs and "grow the pie,'' according to NFL executive president Jeff Pash.

    "So that means basically they want me to buy my own breakfast and lunch, pay for airfare to games, the hotel, pay for my shoes. That's about 18 percent. Do you pay for your pad and pens?'' Bears kicker Robbie Gould, the team's player representative, asked over the phone as he was snowed in in Chicago.

    "We're not asking for any more but we're not going to take any less,'' Gould said. "Fans don't want to see millionaires fighting billionaires. We want to play too. But given the circumstances the NFL is completely out of line.''

    It's easy to see Gould's point. But it's a hard sell because nobody on either side is getting poor.

    Guys making the rounds at Radio Row such as Tommie Harris and Larry Fitzgerald, et al, are millionaires because of the NFL. Player salaries have doubled in the past decade and the average NFL salary now approaches $2 million.

    Does the union really think that saying this is about the fans makes the guy earning $60,000 who can afford one game a year, maybe, feel more empathy for the plight of the NFL player?

    As valid as some of the union complaints might be, sorry, the players need the league more than the owners need the players. The first thing to go for many NFL players isn't ability. It's perspective.

    The public doesn't want to hear players whine about being treated fairly. Unfair in today's economy is a working family wondering where the grocery or rent money will come from after the job loss of a parent.

    If the league continues to grow as much as Smith expects, how much money will players lose in the long run anyway?

    Reality hits March 4 when, if a new deal isn't reached, nearly 500 players will miss out on millions of dollars worth of bonuses. They also will lose health-insurance benefits. At that point the Bears offensive line might look like a strong, united front compared to the rank-and-file of the NFLPA.

    "We're a family,'' NFLPA player president Kevin Mawae said.

    It could be one headed for Jerry Springer's show. Of the 1,900 players he represents, Smith lamented several had family members facing terminal illness or organ transplants. He also bemoaned the 200 player families who were expecting babies having to pay for their own care.

    Is this their "war'' too?

    Their real-life concerns would seem to make Smith sound more motivated to find compromise, not conflict. I didn't hear that. I only heard one thing from Smith that made me nod my head.

    "The people who have the most to lose,'' Smith said, "are our fans.''

    So don't let them.
    NFL labor: Players have more to lose than owners in labor squabble - chicagotribune.com



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    The players are screwed. The health insurance thing is a big deal. Who can sit longer, millionaires or billionaires?
    Also don't the owners still collect the tv revenue anyway even if there is a lockout?



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    Just hopefully the NFL and the NFLPA don't make the mistake of baseball and hockey. Hopefully they work it out before any games are lost.



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    The players will probably lose the next round. Some may have to stand in the unemploryment line with Chad Johnson. They better get their medical care done now. Get that vision check. Check the bend over.


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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    The players will probably lose the next round. Some may have to stand in the unemploryment line with Chad Johnson. They better get their medical care done now. Get that vision check. Check the bend over.
    The health insurance angle is a tad overblown. The players will have access to COBRA and can continue their present health insurance as is for 18 months, they (or the NFLPA) just has to pay for it after March 4 if there is no CBA. If a player making multiple 6 figures hasn't saved enough to pay $1000-1500/month for his families health care then that is on them. I'm not necessarily pro-player or owner but here is a good reasoned interview with the NFL's lead negotiator on the subject:

    NFLLabor.com NFL’s Jeff Pash: “Forward-looking bargaining about the future of the game” crucial for new CBA



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    A huge chunk of the players are going to run out of money by October or so. Once that happens they will be willing to make some major concessions. The owners know this, they are going to drive a really hard stance because of this. The NBA strike in 1999 ended for the same reason, too many players were going broke.



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it (or something like that)

    The sooner the players realize that, unlike basketball and baseball, fans care more about the name on the front of the jersey than the name on the back the better off they will be. They've used replacement players before and they can do it again.

    I think the players know this and the comments you see from them about willing to fight as long as it takes are just grandstanding.



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    Quote Originally Posted by JP4CY View Post
    The players are screwed. The health insurance thing is a big deal. Who can sit longer, millionaires or billionaires?
    Also don't the owners still collect the tv revenue anyway even if there is a lockout?
    The real question is who do you think will come out on top? The billionaire owners who have to come up with the models and protections for themselves to make the NFL a profitable organization, or players who struggle to read or balance a checkbook? The fact is the players are bringing knives to a gunfight when you are talking about business savvy. Most of the best owners don't bank that much money out of their organizations, so not having a season does not hurt their bank account. These are their toys to play with. They will loose some goodwill from the fans, but it is the players who have shown to not be able to manage their finances historically.



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    Re: Players Have More to Lose Than Owners in Labor Squabble

    [QUOTE=brett108;2125485]The real question is who do you think will come out on top? The billionaire owners who have to come up with the models and protections for themselves to make the NFL a profitable organization, or players who struggle to read or balance a checkbook? The fact is the players are bringing knives to a gunfight when you are talking about business savvy. Most of the best owners don't bank that much money out of their organizations, so not having a season does not hurt their bank account. These are their toys to play with. They will loose some goodwill from the fans, but it is the players who have shown to not be able to manage their finances historically.[/QUOTE]

    You are right. The most outspoken player against the union has been Antonio Cromartie, a guy with kids all over the place and no contract for next season. If he doesn't play he's broke.

    This where the players are going to get divided. As silly as it seems, a lot of these players are living paycheck to paycheck. It's what doomed the players in the 1999 NBA lockout and could derail the NFLPA here. It's crazy how many of these guys are bankrupt within a couple of years after retirement.



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