Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21
  1. #1
    Starter
    Points: 12,576, Level: 33
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    SlyCy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    North Liberty, Iowa
    Posts
    804
    Points
    12,576
    Level
    33
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    LINK

    If you're looking for optimism about the state of the program don't read this article.



  2. #2
    Legend
    Points: 386,900, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 33.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    bos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    23,784
    Points
    386,900
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 557
    Given: 383

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    I though it was actually a good article. Its correct. I saw some optimism in it.



  3. #3
    Legend Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    DaddyMac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    14,375
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Sounds about right to me.

    However, I'm a little distressed about the whole "salesman" idea. We've already had one of those. I want a football coach! Let the sales job up to Jamie - he does it well.

    TWO WEEKS, BABY! TWO WEEKS!!!



  4. #4
    Starter
    Points: 12,576, Level: 33
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    SlyCy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    North Liberty, Iowa
    Posts
    804
    Points
    12,576
    Level
    33
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Yep, I just meant it was kind of depressing to read. But hey that stuff is all in the past!

    Go State!



  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 143,558, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 11.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    7,773
    Points
    143,558
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 151
    Given: 223

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    I find that article to be honest and encouraging. Chizik doesn't like to lose. As a fan of ISU that has to be encouraging-the guy likes to win and hates to lose-what is bad about that? Who cares that he has to sell-call it what you want but he DOES have to sell. He has to sell on the recruiting trail, to the fans, etc.

    If you are discouraged you are reading this all wrong my friend.

    jmb


    As far as depth goes though, the combination of White, Woodbury, Olaseni, Basabe, and Uthoff is much better than Niang, Ejim, Edozie, Gibson. Not because of the top 2, but because of the next 2 or 3. -DeanVogs

  6. #6
    Addict
    Points: 118,867, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    cyclonenum1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    7,181
    Points
    118,867
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by SlyCy View Post
    LINK

    If you're looking for optimism about the state of the program don't read this article.
    I could not disagree with you more...THIS ARTICLE BOLSTERS MY CONFIDENCE!!

    We are going to WIN with Chizik...

    "It was widely believed every school with a job opening would want him. Iowa State got him, becoming the biggest coup of recruiting season for the Cyclones."

    "(Chizik) is a competitor," Meyer said. "He's not looking at this year as a 'feel-out' year. He wants to win now." "It's the only way Chizik has ever known. In the past three seasons, Chizik has been a part of exactly three losses all of them last season at Texas."

    "I know we will go though some growing pains, but I don't think I'll ever be emotionally prepared to lose a lot," Chizik said. "I'm very unbending in that way. We can't walk off the field after losing to Oklahoma and say, 'That's OK, we were supposed to lose.' Because it's not OK."

    "We have to win on a consistent basis to keep people behind us. If you don't win, you're just a guy."



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

  7. #7
    Asst. Regional Manager
    Points: 237,535, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 61.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    mj4cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    16,959
    Points
    237,535
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 643
    Given: 577

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    "We can't walk off the field after losing to Oklahoma and say, 'That's OK, we were supposed to lose.' Because it's not OK."

    Love that quote!

    And it's a pretty good article. It told the truth and everyone knows it, even if they don't want to think about the uphill climb.


    @RandomGeoFacts

  8. #8
    cyclONEnation
    Points: 236,443, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    C.John's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    15,431
    Points
    236,443
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 50
    Given: 44

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Good article, thanks for linking it.



  9. #9
    Addict
    Points: 118,867, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    cyclonenum1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    7,181
    Points
    118,867
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    On the other side of this article what an indictment of the "McCarney Era"...

    "In order to renew excitement for a program scraping the Big 12's rock bottom, Chizik also would have to become a traveling salesman."

    "We're selling hope," Chizik said. "We're selling people on the fact that they can be on the ground floor of something special, that they can be the reason this thing gets turned around."

    "They finished 4-8 and won just one conference game, an ignominious mark that marked the end of the line for coach Dan McCarney, who in 12 years in Ames had become a sort of Iowa State institution." This is the "outside world" wondering how in the hell we let this guy hang around for 12 years and some people wish he was still here!

    "Iowa State does return Blythe and quarterback Bret Meyer, the top pitch-and-catch combo in school history, but the cupboard is bare almost everywhere else."



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

  10. #10
    Starter
    Points: 11,086, Level: 31
    Level completed: 77%, Points required for next Level: 164
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    loboclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rio Rancho, New Mexico
    Posts
    811
    Points
    11,086
    Level
    31
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Consider the source, Texas.................if you have lived or worked in Texas you would take this slanted view as "norm". Remember when Gene accepted the ISU job, the "fans" in Texas all said "Iowa State????"



  11. #11
    Speechless
    Points: 452,567, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    brianhos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Trenchtown
    Posts
    39,714
    Points
    452,567
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 263
    Given: 36

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    That did not seem depressing, it seemed realistic. I like the fact he states he does not want to rebuild, he wants to win now.


    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775

  12. #12
    Starter
    Points: 12,576, Level: 33
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    SlyCy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    North Liberty, Iowa
    Posts
    804
    Points
    12,576
    Level
    33
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone#1 View Post
    On the other side of this article what an indictment of the "McCarney Era"...

    "In order to renew excitement for a program scraping the Big 12's rock bottom, Chizik also would have to become a traveling salesman."

    "We're selling hope," Chizik said. "We're selling people on the fact that they can be on the ground floor of something special, that they can be the reason this thing gets turned around."

    "They finished 4-8 and won just one conference game, an ignominious mark that marked the end of the line for coach Dan McCarney, who in 12 years in Ames had become a sort of Iowa State institution." This is the "outside world" wondering how in the hell we let this guy hang around for 12 years and some people wish he was still here!

    "Iowa State does return Blythe and quarterback Bret Meyer, the top pitch-and-catch combo in school history, but the cupboard is bare almost everywhere else."
    Agreed that what I was getting at. I'll always have all the optimism in the world with Gene running the show at ISU.



  13. #13
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 41,436, Level: 62
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 214
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran25000 Experience Points
    HandSanitizer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Bondurant, IA
    Posts
    3,634
    Points
    41,436
    Level
    62
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 45
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    We WILL win with Chizek. I am just not so sure about this year. I want to see a team that doesn't lay down and take a 50 point beating from a OU or Texas. If we win 4-5 games and are competive with this years schedule, then I think its going to be a fun ride when he gets his players in the next few years.



  14. #14
    All-Star Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    bmuff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    1,583
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    I think that they overplayed Chizik having to "sell" people or motivate ISU fans. He made five stops on the rubber chicken circuit. What college coach doesn't have to do that or more? Pollard and his staff are the ones selling, not Chizik. All Chizik has to do is coach FB and run the program. He's not calling donors begging for money or speaking at Elks Clubs asking people to buy season tickets.

    And as for motivating the fan base, we sold a record for season tix last year. I'd actually like to see how many school's fans got less for their money than ISU's last year (tickets sold vs wins). Not many I'm betting. The fans WANT a winner and WANT to jump on board. We were on board last year and very few have jumped off after going 4-8.


    XXXX Master Shake is under gag order XXXX

  15. #15
    All-Star Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,384
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Texas perspective on Chizik at ISU

    There are some programs that come to the table with a built-in, unfair advantage. We call those programs "Texas", "Oklahoma" and "Nebraska". Having said that, ANY coach can take nearly ANY group of college athletes and, through a process of player development, judicious recruiting and game-day execution routinely beat the rest of the pack, and occasionally beat the "big boys".

    And that's what I want to see out of Chizik.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: FOX
  • Iowa State vs. Baylor
  • September 27, 2014
  • 07:20 PM