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    IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday - PCWorld Business Center

    A press conference taking place on Thursday in Miami is expected to mark the last allocation of Internet Protocol, Version 4 addresses by the central authority that assigns them.

    The event, which will take place at 9:30 a.m. Eastern time and be shared via webcast, will bring together four nonprofit organizations that coordinate the Internet's addressing system, according to an advisory sent to media on Tuesday. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the Number Resources Organization, the Internet Architecture Board and the Internet Society all are scheduled to participate. The advisory specifies that the event will concern the dwindling number of IPv4 addresses. The total supply of 4.3 billion IPv4 addresses has been nearing depletion for several years, leading to warnings that enterprises and Internet service providers (ISPs) should adopt IPv6, a next-generation protocol with virtually unlimited addresses.


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    I like this part of that quote:
    virtually unlimited addresses
    Sounds like "64k is all you'll ever need"


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by iahawkhunter View Post
    I like this part of that quote:

    Sounds like "64k is all you'll ever need"
    The total pool, however, is sufficient for the foreseeable future, because there are 2^128 or about 3.410^
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    (340 trillion trillion trillion) unique IPv6 addresses.
    I think that really is all we'll ever need.

    IPv6 address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    BTW, that is 340282366920938463463374607431768211456 addresses.


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    I think that really is all we'll ever need.

    IPv6 address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I agree that IPv6 should last us for a very long time. But given how fast computer technology and use has exploded, I find it laughable to say that any quantity/spec/etc. is "all we'll ever need". What seems unreachable today is a limitation tomorrow.


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by iahawkhunter View Post
    I agree that IPv6 should last us for a very long time. But given how fast computer technology and use has exploded, I find it laughable to say that any quantity/spec/etc. is "all we'll ever need". What seems unreachable today is a limitation tomorrow.
    I see where you are coming from, but really, that is not a limitation that we could possibly reach. There just aren't enough atoms in the universe for us to reach that limitation.



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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Unfortunately no one is adopting ipv6 yet. As a company we just reserved our v6 block, but have no plans to implement that block in the near future. This whole thing makes me happy we got a bunch of class c's from ARIN a few years back.


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Unfortunately no one is adopting ipv6 yet. As a company we just reserved our v6 block, but have no plans to implement that block in the near future. This whole thing makes me happy we got a bunch of class c's from ARIN a few years back.
    Well, almost nobody in the U.S. When the IPv4 address space was allocated, the U.S. got so much of it that we could possibly still go several more years before exhausting it. But other countries weren't so lucky, and have had to go to IPv6 sooner.

    I would like the U.S. to adopt IPv6 ASAP, so we can all get on the same page. If a web site is on an IPv6 network, can that site be accessed from an IPv4 network, such as one in the U.S.? I doubt it. (I read somewhere something about the packet formats being very different between IPv4 and IPv6)



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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    Well, almost nobody in the U.S. When the IPv4 address space was allocated, the U.S. got so much of it that we could possibly still go several more years before exhausting it. But other countries weren't so lucky, and have had to go to IPv6 sooner.

    I would like the U.S. to adopt IPv6 ASAP, so we can all get on the same page. If a web site is on an IPv6 network, can that site be accessed from an IPv4 network, such as one in the U.S.? I doubt it. (I read somewhere something about the packet formats being very different between IPv4 and IPv6)
    It's my understanding that all of IPv4 occupies a small, small subset of IPv6 address space. In order for the two to interoperate, the routers between the IPv4 and IPv6 segments would need to do some sort of network address translation (kind of like what your home routers do to share a single public IP address for multiple in-home devices).


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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    I think that really is all we'll ever need.

    IPv6 address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    BTW, that is 340282366920938463463374607431768211456 addresses.
    Reminds me of a quote from a famous scientist...



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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    I think that really is all we'll ever need.

    IPv6 address - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    BTW, that is 340282366920938463463374607431768211456 addresses.
    pffft I've got at least half of that many book marks for porn alone



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    Re: IPv4's Funeral Expected to Come Thursday

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    Well, almost nobody in the U.S. When the IPv4 address space was allocated, the U.S. got so much of it that we could possibly still go several more years before exhausting it. But other countries weren't so lucky, and have had to go to IPv6 sooner.
    Just like our oil reserves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    I would like the U.S. to adopt IPv6 ASAP, so we can all get on the same page.
    Just like the metric system, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugs4ISU View Post
    If a web site is on an IPv6 network, can that site be accessed from an IPv4 network, such as one in the U.S.? I doubt it. (I read somewhere something about the packet formats being very different between IPv4 and IPv6)
    This is a critical point, and one that will undoubtedly cause headaches around the world, especially in lesser-developed countries. Here is a bit from Cisco regarding the transition:

    Routing IPv6 over IPv4 - The Internet Protocol Journal - Volume 3, No. 1 - Cisco Systems

    Some of this isn't even possible until new routing hardware/software is developed to handle the tunneling that will be required.

    Think about it.... nearly every single device on Earth (and in space) that is connected to a network has an IPv4 address, routable through an IPv4 network using IPv4-aware/capable equipment.

    Y2K was childs' play compared to this.



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