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    Recruiting and today's roster - the numbers game

    The information below was taken Saturday (Jan. 29) from the football roster at cyclones.com. Transfers Sedrick Johnson and Kevin Hamlin were not listed, so the roster is likely up-to-date.

    I added the former walk-ons (*) from memory, could be some errors there. Also from memory are those players who are on scholarship and those who aren't. Corrections?

    With 67 returning scholarship student athletes next fall (if the scholarship list is correct), we can add only 18 more under NCAA rules (85 total allowed) February 2, NSD. In November, CPR said he expected to sign a class of around 20 on NSD. But wait! The three December signees count against the 85 total, too! So, 67 + 3 + 18 = 88. What gives? Something must. I ain't worried, just having fun watching how it works out

    Any errors in the roster information that follows, please let me know.

    (If the roster does not maintain its columnar fomatting when I post, perhaps someone would correct it for html format? Thanks.)

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    Scholarship Seniors 2010 (16)

    77 Alvarez, Alex OL 6-2 305 RSr. Texas
    4 Arnaud, Austen QB 6-3 230 RSr. Iowa
    88 Franklin, Collin TE 6-5 252 RSr. California
    85 Johnson, Bailey DL 6-2 278 RSr. Illinois
    59 * Kaufman, Preston LB 5-11 231 RSr. Nebraska

    16 * Kuehl, Daniel P 6-0 193 RSr. Iowa
    63 Lamaak, Ben OL 6-4 320 RSr. Iowa
    80 * Mitchell, Drew TE 6-2 243 RSr. Iowa
    26 * Mansfield, Taylor DE 6-1 263 RSr. Iowa
    37 * O'Connell, Michael DB 5-11 208 RSr. Iowa

    29 Parker, Rashawn DE 6-0 250 RSr. Oklahoma
    33 Robinson, Alexander RB 5-9 191 RSr. Minnesota
    3 Sandvig, Zac DB 5-10 193 RSr. Iowa
    50 * Smith, Sean OL 6-5 302 RSr. Missouri
    1 Sims, David DB 5-9 204 Sr. Florida
    83 * Williams, Jake WR 6-2 203 RSr. Iowa

    (* Walk-on originally)


    Scholarship Underclassmen 2010 (67)

    16 Barnett, Jared QB 6-0 196 Fr. Texas
    2 Bennett, Adrian DB 6-1 214 Fr. Texas
    22 Benton, Ter'Ran DB 6-0 197 Jr. Texas
    98 Black, Jerrod DL 6-0 284 RJr. Texas
    9 Blanton, Jr., Keith WR 6-0 197 RFr. Texas

    17 Brooks, Earl DB 5-10 191 RJr. Florida
    14 Broomfield, Deon DB 6-0 182 RFr. Florida
    79 Burris, Brayden OL 6-6 290 So. Kansas
    71 Bykowski, Carter OL 6-7 293 So. Minnesota
    14 Capello, James QB 6-0 201 RFr. Pennsylvania

    57 Caspers, Jon OL 6-4 292 Jr. Minnesota
    6 Darks, Darius WR 6-1 189 Jr. Texas
    73 Dika, Shaban OL 6-5 291 Fr. Texas
    74 Farniok, Tom OL 6-3 267 Fr. South Dakota
    65 Gannon, Jacob OL 6-6 266 Fr. Iowa

    18 Gary, Albert WR 5-10 198 RFr. Florida
    7 George, Jeremiah LB 5-11 215 Fr. Florida
    24 Givens, Durrell DB 5-11 218 Jr. California
    78 Graham, Bob OL 6-4 292 Fr. Oklahoma
    25 Guyer, Zach PK 6-3 190 Jr. Iowa

    86 Hammerschmidt, Kurt TE 6-5 253 RSo. Missouri
    75 Hicks, Hayworth OL 6-3 330 RJr. California
    1 Hollis, Duran RB 5-9 214 Fr. Texas
    81 Howard, Ricky TE 6-3 246 Jr. California
    12 Jennert, Donnie WR 6-7 200 RFr. Florida

    62 Jensen, Brandon DL 6-4 271 Fr. Iowa
    23 Johnson, Leonard DB 5-10 195 Jr. Florida
    25 Johnson, Shontrelle RB 5-9 182 Fr. Florida
    47 Klein, A.J. LB 6-1 240 So. Wisconsin
    20 Knott, Jake LB 6-2 240 So. Iowa

    90 Laing, Cleyon DE 6-4 272 RSo. Alberta, Can.
    48 Lattimer, Jacob DE 6-2 245 Jr. Kansas
    19 Lenz, Josh WR 6-0 188 So. Iowa
    69 Lichtenberg, Kyle OL 6-6 271 RFr. Iowa
    56 Loth, Ben OL 6-5 300 Fr. California

    38 Maggitt, Roosevelt DE 6-1 239 RSo. Florida
    21 Mahoney, Grant PK 6-0 176 Jr. Iowa
    19 Mattison, Floyd LB 5-10 190 Fr. Texas
    94 McDonough, Jake DL 6-5 288 RSo. Iowa
    93 Moore, Aaron DE 6-3 250 RFr. Texas

    27 Morgan, C.J. LB 6-2 200 Fr. Florida
    39 * Morton, Matt LB 6-0 207 RSo. Texas
    91 Neal, Patrick DE 6-0 235 RJr. Iowa
    31 Nelson, Rony DE 6-2 250 Jr. Florida
    72 Osemele, Kelechi OL 6-5 335 RJr. Texas

    10 Range, Lonzie WR 6-2 197 RSo. Texas
    5 Reeves, Jeremy DB 5-7 168 So. Texas
    7 Reynolds, Darius WR 6-2 205 RJr. Virginia
    89 Richardson, Pierce TE 6-4 240 Fr. California
    97 Ruempolhamer, S. DL 6-3 280 Jr. Oklahoma

    50 Scott, Willie DE 6-2 223 RFr. Florida
    76 Spears, Zack OL 6-5 286 Jr. Texas
    45 Tau'fo'ou, Matt LB 5-11 239 RJr. California
    8 Thomas, Matthew DB 5-9 156 Fr. Texas
    11 Tiller, Jerome QB 6-2 200 RSo. Texas

    64 Tuftee, Ethan OL 6-4 304 RFr. Iowa
    13 Van Der Kamp, Kirby P 6-3 195 Fr. Iowa
    10 Washington, Jacques DB 6-0 200 RFr. Oklahoma
    2 Watson, Jansen DB 5-9 180 RFr. Florida
    3 West, Jarvis WR 5-6 154 Fr. Florida

    8 White, James RB 5-8 181 RFr. Texas
    34 Williams, Bo RB 6-0 229 RJr. Florida
    95 Woods III, Walter DL 6-0 288 RFr. California
    32 * Woody, Jeff RB 6-0 234 RFr. Iowa
    4 Young, Anthony DB 5-8 172 Jr. California

    15 Young, Chris WR 5-11 187 Jr. Texas
    46 * Zimmerman, Dakota DS 6-1 228 Jr. Kansas


    Non-Scholarship Seniors 2010

    48 Adams, Brad RB 5-10 184 Sr. Iowa
    93 Anker, Sam DS 6-1 209 RSr. Iowa


    Non-Scholarship Underclassmen 2010

    32 Ahrendt, Cody DB 6-1 195 Fr. Iowa
    90 Amundson, Mitch PK 5-10 196 Fr. Iowa
    52 Bangtson, Mike OL 6-3 280 RFr. Iowa
    45 Behnkendorf, Andrew P 6-4 220 RSo. Iowa
    12 Boyer, Wes DB 6-0 180 RFr. Iowa

    82 Branderhorst, Reid TE 6-4 244 Jr. Iowa
    17 Brown, Bobby QB 6-2 190 Fr. Iowa
    8 Bueker, Brett QB 6-3 247 RSo. Iowa
    13 Byrne, Ryan DB 5-10 194 Fr. Iowa
    85 Carlson, Jarred WR 6-2 175 Fr. Iowa

    70 Davis, Drew OL 6-8 335 RSo. Iowa
    37 Dinkins, Ben WR 6-0 185 RFr. Florida
    35 Ewald, Vince TE 6-6 232 RSo. Illinois
    19 Fisher, Ben WR 6-3 180 Fr. Iowa
    55 Gall, Nolan LB 6-3 220 Fr. Iowa

    18 Gent, Ryan QB 6-2 190 RFr. Iowa
    33 Gregg, Gary DB 6-0 200 RFr. Ohio
    36 Hawley, Jace DB 5-9 189 So. Iowa
    66 Holloway, Stewart DL 6-2 210 Fr. Iowa
    14 Houk, Jeff P 6-0 165 Fr. Iowa

    49 Kirpes, Carl LB 6-3 230 RFr. Iowa
    84 Klacik, Michael WR 5-10 180 RJr. Iowa
    5 Kliegl, Blake WR 6-3 200 Fr. Iowa
    92 Krick, Austin DL 6-1 225 Fr. Iowa
    29 Leo, Tyler RB 6-0 215 Fr. Iowa

    12 McBeth, Austin QB 6-0 190 So. Iowa
    60 Moran-Hoyne, Taimon OL 6-4 265 RFr. Minnesota
    36 Mulcahy, Patrick WR 6-5 204 RSo. Iowa
    21 Petersen, Tyler WR 6-3 180 Fr. Iowa
    27 Romey, Michael P 6-5 197 RJr. Iowa

    34 Satre, Thad DB 6-0 202 RFr. Iowa
    87 Seiser, Trey TE 6-4 211 Fr. Iowa
    43 Shaeffer, Gage DB 5-10 188 Fr. Minnesota
    67 Sjoblom, Kody DL 6-2 230 Fr. Iowa
    52 Stonerook, Grant LB 6-1 220 RFr. Colorado

    53 Sudbeck, Tyler LB 6-1 200 Fr. Iowa
    8 Thomas, Matthew DB 5-9 156 Fr. Texas
    49 Thornton, Spencer DS 6-1 220 Fr. Iowa
    31 Van ****, Matt WR 5-9 153 RSo. Iowa
    41 Woods, Walker Lee RB 5-10 195 RFr. Iowa

    56 Wright, Russell LB 6-0 237 So. Georgia


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    Re: Recruiting and today's roster - the numbers game

    It will be interesting to see how they are going to work everything out. ISU currently has 23 guys committed to come on (including Kron). I think with a combination of guys leaving the program, or commits never making it to campus, it may work out...but we may be forced to offer grayshirts or cut some guys loose.

    ...and Matthew Thomas FR D-Back is on scholarship


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    And this is why it hurts recruiting so many QB's and WR's.

    We really need the ability to sign a few DT's and a DE or two, but there might not be any room left?

    So for all those that claim we need to bring in a bunch of QB's and WR's until we find some that are good... that's not how it can work. Your scouting has to be good enough to bring in quality guys... not quantity.

    We are high in QB's and WR's... and it is costing us in numbers on the defensive side IMO. Oh well... who needs defense, right?



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    Re: Recruiting and today's roster - the numbers game

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPower57 View Post
    . . . ISU currently has 23 guys committed to come on (including Kron). I think with a combination of guys leaving the program, or commits never making it to campus, it may work out...but we may be forced to offer grayshirts or cut some guys loose.

    ...and Matthew Thomas FR D-Back is on scholarship
    Three early signees, though, who others here speculate will count against last year's scholarship total (66 scholarship underclassmen +12 scholarship seniors is 78 kids on scholarship last fall, nine under the NCAA limit). So, that leaves 19 NSD commitments, I think. But, where does mid-year enrollee Jevohn Miller's scholarship fall, in last year's group or the class of 2011.

    It is interesting, for sure.

    You're positive about Matthew Thomas being on scholarship? If so, was he a late addition to the 2010 class? His is a new name to me.


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    I thought I remembered someone saying that scholarships are on a year to year basis and must be renewed by the coaching staff. If a player hasn't lived up to his end of it off the field and in the classroom I could see one not being renewed. I also wonder how they handle the scholarships given to walk-ons? I don't think it would be a bad policy to hand those out on a yearly basis if there is space available you might as well use them on the condition that it is not guaranteed for all remaining years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    And this is why it hurts recruiting so many QB's and WR's.

    We really need the ability to sign a few DT's and a DE or two, but there might not be any room left?

    So for all those that claim we need to bring in a bunch of QB's and WR's until we find some that are good... that's not how it can work. Your scouting has to be good enough to bring in quality guys... not quantity.

    We are high in QB's and WR's... and it is costing us in numbers on the defensive side IMO. Oh well... who needs defense, right?
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    Passing Yards - 95
    Rushing Yards - 72
    POINTS FOR - 97
    POINTS AGAINST - 76

    Funny, it's almost as if we need more help on offense than we do at defense. Oh well... who wants to see us score more points than the other team?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GenClone View Post
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    Passing Yards - 95
    Rushing Yards - 72
    POINTS FOR - 97
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    Funny, it's almost as if we need more help on offense than we do at defense. Oh well... who wants to see us score more points than the other team?
    Wally has been able to do more with less than nearly any coach I know. Herman is getting spoiled with all the recruits, but for some reason none of them are any good or can't be developed? Wally on the other hand is working miracles with what he has to work with.

    At what point do you blame the offensive "system" and not the players? Every year I hear about what studs we have coming in at WR... and none of them seem to pan out. So what is the deal?



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    Re: Recruiting and today's roster - the numbers game

    Kaufman, Kuehl, Smith and Mitchell were all given scholarships this fall. Maybe Smith was the year before, not sure, but you can count those guys toward the graduating scholarship players. Not sure about Adams and Anker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyValley View Post
    Three early signees, though, who others here speculate will count against last year's scholarship total (66 scholarship underclassmen +12 scholarship seniors is 78 kids on scholarship last fall, nine under the NCAA limit). So, that leaves 19 NSD commitments, I think. But, where does mid-year enrollee Jevohn Miller's scholarship fall, in last year's group or the class of 2011.

    It is interesting, for sure.

    You're positive about Matthew Thomas being on scholarship? If so, was he a late addition to the 2010 class? His is a new name to me.
    Yep, I don't see the 25/year limit being an issue at all, but the 85 may present a problem.

    Matt Thomas signed on signing day last year I believe. Supposedly, he is a playmaker at his size so maybe he has some Jeremy Reeves in him.

    With our 2011 commits, we would have 13 WRs on scholarship this year:
    Darks, Lenz, Reynolds, West, Blanton, Jennert, Young, Range, Gary, Horne, Ecby, Lampkin, Bundrage.

    With the high number of WRs on the roster, one would think at least 2-3 can step up. If they don't, it may be/has been more of a product of poor QB play/WR coaching.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Wally has been able to do more with less than nearly any coach I know. Herman is getting spoiled with all the recruits, but for some reason none of them are any good or can't be developed? Wally on the other hand is working miracles with what he has to work with.

    At what point do you blame the offensive "system" and not the players? Every year I hear about what studs we have coming in at WR... and none of them seem to pan out. So what is the deal?
    This is pathetic. How long has Herman been here? How old were his recruits last year? He hasn't had a chance to use "his" recruits yet. Hes been playing with McCarneys and Genes pieces of crap that don't fit his system.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPower57 View Post
    . . . Matt Thomas signed on signing day last year I believe. Supposedly, he is a playmaker at his size so maybe he has some Jeremy Reeves in him. . . .
    Boy, I don't know how I missed him. I'm so intent on learning about the kids we sign that I can't understand how he slipped by. For me, a mystery. But, here he is, on last February's list of recruit signings:

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    . . . How long has Herman been here? How old were his recruits last year? He hasn't had a chance to use "his" recruits yet. Hes been playing with McCarneys and Genes pieces of crap that don't fit his system.
    Pieces of what? That's what you think of our Cyclone student-athletes who work their butts into the ground year around? Man, are you out of line. . . .


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    Yeah, being a Cyclone automatically makes you a good player. My bad I forgot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    This is pathetic. How long has Herman been here? How old were his recruits last year? He hasn't had a chance to use "his" recruits yet. Hes been playing with McCarneys and Genes pieces of crap that don't fit his system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    This is pathetic. How long has Herman been here? How old were his recruits last year? He hasn't had a chance to use "his" recruits yet. Hes been playing with McCarneys and Genes pieces of crap that don't fit his system.
    What is pathetic is you calling ISU players pieces of crap no matter who they signed under. Good OCs tailor their offense to fit the talent. "His" WR recruits have yet to catch a single pass...not counting Money Reynolds since Chizik layed the groundwork there. I'm not writing Herman off, but the QB and WR play has went downhill since he got here.



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