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    Seneca vs. Sage

    After seeing both Seneca and Sage in the stands at last night's basketball game, my wife asked me the following question:

    Who's had the better NFL career, Seneca or Sage?

    I just stared at her blanky after she asked the question. I simply didn't have an answer.

    What are your thoughts? Their career statistics are very similar. They've started about the same number of games. They have similar passer ratings. I believe Seneca caught a big pass in the Super Bowl or conference championship game, so that must count for something...

    Sage Rosenfels, QB for the New York Giants at NFL.com

    Seneca Wallace, QB for the Cleveland Browns at NFL.com


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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    oh no...not again.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Sage is a better NFL QB.

    Seneca is simply a freak athlete.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Since they are both backups we will have to go with who is getting the paid the most to not get beaten up every Sunday! The are worse gigs than backup for the salaries they earn especially when you look at the beating some of the QBs take (ie: Rodgers and his multiple concessions this year).

    BTW, very cool they were back for the game last night.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    I think Seneca has had a better pro career, although the numbers are close and Seneca has been a bit more efficient.

    Seneca got to play in an NFC championship game and catch a pass and be involved in the playoffs, so I think that gives him the boost.

    I'm not saying he is the better QB, but I think his career has been slightly better.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Both are career backups so pretty comparable.

    I would be more interested in who you think had the better college career. Seneca had the highlights, the Heisman campaign, and had us rated as high as #9 before the bottom fell out while Sage lead us to a 9-3 season and our first ever bowl win.

    Pretty close as far as I'm concerned. Might even lean towards Sage as the #1 stat for a QB is wins IMO.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Diggy View Post
    Both are career backups so pretty comparable.

    I would be more interested in who you think had the better college career. Seneca had the highlights, the Heisman campaign, and had us rated as high as #9 before the bottom fell out while Sage lead us to a 9-3 season and our first ever bowl win.

    Pretty close as far as I'm concerned. Might even lean towards Sage as the #1 stat for a QB is wins IMO.
    That is also a very intriguing discussion. Did anyone else notice Sencea got a rousing standing ovation while Sage barely received a golf clap? I'm not sure if it was simply the Texas Tech "run" highlight that evoked such emotion, but Seneca was shown much more love from the Hilton crowd last night.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Quote Originally Posted by creightonclone View Post
    That is also a very intriguing discussion. Did anyone else notice Sencea got a rousing standing ovation while Sage barely received a golf clap? I'm not sure if it was simply the Texas Tech "run" highlight that evoked such emotion, but Seneca was shown much more love from the Hilton crowd last night.
    i felt bad for Sage I have to admit. As said before, Sage lead us to a 9-3 season and our first bowl win. But damn it was fun to watch Seneca.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    If you saw both play in college its pretty clear cut. Sage had a OL, Seneca didnt. Seneca would have gone crazy with a good OL and a run game his senior year.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    I saw them both play. Sage was a very efficient quarterback in the system that we ran back then. Like the above poster Seneca was a freak athlete. Could you imagine him in the offense that we run now? That would be nuts.


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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    If you saw both play in college its pretty clear cut. Sage had a OL, Seneca didnt. Seneca would have gone crazy with a good OL and a run game his senior year.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    I played with both of them and I would vote for Sage as being the better QB.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Seneca has been the better pro. Passing numbers are pretty equal (I'd give Seneca slight nod there, too) but Seneca's been a weapon at receiver and in the wildcat. Both have been very solid pros. I look for Sage to play longer than Seneca. I could see Sage playing until his late 30s. When you see scrubs like Todd Collins hang on so long, no reason Sage can't.



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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    If you saw both play in college its pretty clear cut. Sage had a OL, Seneca didnt. Seneca would have gone crazy with a good OL and a run game his senior year.
    It is funny to me how people seem to forget the talent Seneca had around him during his first year. They act like every yard he got, he got on his own. That is just factually incorrect. 2001 is the year that got him the hype for Heisman. When ISU lost a bunch of players following that season and Seneca's numbers dropped. Correct me if I am wrong but the only difference in the OL between Sage's last year and Seneca's first was Ben Bruns. A great player but it isn't like the whole OL graduated with Sage

    I am not saying Seneca wasn't special...he was but let's not forget a guy like Ennis Haywood just because he passed away. The guy had almost 1200 yards that year. Danielson and Whitver weren't speed demons but they ran great routes and had great hands. Mike Banks was no slouch either.


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    Re: Seneca vs. Sage

    Quote Originally Posted by creightonclone View Post
    After seeing both Seneca and Sage in the stands at last night's basketball game, my wife asked me the following question:

    Who's had the better NFL career, Seneca or Sage?

    I just stared at her blanky after she asked the question. I simply didn't have an answer.

    What are your thoughts? Their career statistics are very similar. They've started about the same number of games. They have similar passer ratings. I believe Seneca caught a big pass in the Super Bowl or conference championship game, so that must count for something...

    Sage Rosenfels, QB for the New York Giants at NFL.com

    Seneca Wallace, QB for the Cleveland Browns at NFL.com
    Pretty equal but Seneca has played on better teams and had more tlent around him at Seattle than Sage has had.


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