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    The dark side of women's recruiting

    An article that really doesn't beat around the bush about homophobia in women's basketball recruiting. It starts with a former Cyclone player (unnamed) talking about BF's "family-oriented" style of recruiting, which, depending on how you look at it, has both homophobic or just plain familial connotations. BF responds in the article as well, whom is one of few coaches who actually allowed himself to be known in the article (rather than anonymous).

    Just thought this was something worth sharing.

    Women's College Basketball: Homophobia is polluting the recruiting trail - ESPN



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    No wonder baylor looks like a bunch of horses.


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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Not really sure how I feel about the article.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    What I find interesting is who often reporters go to BF for articles like this. Iowa State isn't considered a Big time school, yet BF seems to get in articles like this just as much as some of the biggest names in women's basketball. We have a great coach.

    Thank You Coach Fennelly for everything you do for Iowa State!



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    So you are telling me there are lesbians on most womens teams? Stop the presses!!



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Well, it's not as if an ISU coach wasn't once fired because of similar issues.




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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Good that BF was very upfront about it as there is nothing to hide. Some idiots will always find the ways to twist other people's words. Recruiting is a jungle.
    BF was right in emphasizing family: especially when it comes to WBB recruiting. He needs to sell his program and family-oriented team is a great selling point.
    Married head coach: why not ? There's nothing wrong with that.
    Straight assistants: what's wrong with that ? Some people have concerns that people with authority will take advantage of the players: it could happen. This helps alleviate parents' concerns.

    I wonder who the former player was. It'll be interesting whether she was a starter, squad rotation or ended up transferring.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    I'm sure it probably does happen quite a bit, but I'm also sure that ISU has had at least one openly gay player on the squad, so I think trying to pin that kind of crap to Fennelly is a bunch of BS.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    I respect Bill F. for talking frankly, and I do not see any evidence that ISU plays an anti-gay card here. You can interpret language in many ways, and saying that a phrase like "family atmosphere or family environment" translates as anti-gay code could be seen as suggesting that gays are not family oriented or don't have families, both of which are untrue. Today in our culture the whole notion of what constitutes a family in the first place has been undergoing a broadening of definition: it is no longer limited to husband, wife, and two kids, one girl and one boy. That may have been the societal ideal years ago, but today that ideal is clearly out of date, in my view, and I am speaking as a heterosexual, married male.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Someone once said, off the record, the hardest part about coaching womens sports is players dating players and everything that goes with that.


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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    I will say one thing... I would be absolutely SHOCKED if Bill Fennelly is homophobic.

    Okay... I lied, I will say two things... I don't particularly care for Geno... but he is 100% correct when he says this:
    "everyone in this business ought to shoot themselves in the head." He adds, "If that's the direction people want to take it, they've lost their grip on reality."



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Someone once said, off the record, the hardest part about coaching womens sports is players dating players and everything that goes with that.
    That WOULD make things a little tricky. You just don't see that kind of dynamic in men's sports. That said, I don't think BF has done anything wrong at all. There's nothing bad about having your team be a "family" and promoting a family atmosphere.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    They call THAT the "dark underbelly?" They should go on a recruiting trip with Kentucky men's basketball.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    The PC Police at ESPN are out in full force with this hit-piece.



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    Re: The dark side of women's recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CyclonePower88 View Post
    An article that really doesn't beat around the bush about homophobia in women's basketball recruiting. It starts with a former Cyclone player (unnamed) talking about BF's "family-oriented" style of recruiting, which, depending on how you look at it, has both homophobic or just plain familial connotations. BF responds in the article as well, whom is one of few coaches who actually allowed himself to be known in the article (rather than anonymous).

    Just thought this was something worth sharing.

    Women's College Basketball: Homophobia is polluting the recruiting trail - ESPN
    Interesting article and interesting quotes from Bill F, especially given Taylor Greenfield signing on with Stanford and Tara V.



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