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    Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    "Nearly half of the nation's undergraduates show almost no gains in learning in their first two years of college."

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    Students majoring in business, education, social work and communications showed the least gains in learning.

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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    "Nearly half of the nation's undergraduates show almost no gains in learning in their first two years of college."

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    Report: First two years of college show small gains - USATODAY.com

    Students majoring in business, education, social work and communications showed the least gains in learning.

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    Study: Many college students not learning to think critically | McClatchy
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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Sounds about right.




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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Not far off probably. I heard you use less than 10% of what you learn in college on the job.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Already posted a week or so ago.

    Not sure I learned a thing in college that is applicable to real life. I feel like I learned more in my internship than four years of college.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    i can easily see this. i dont go to state so i do not know the scenarios there but even at a four year private school i can not even open my books in my business classes and still get the same grades i did in high school. i know of someone else who is going to dmacc and got a 4.0. granted it is dmacc but they couldnt come close to that in high school. maybe my high school was just harder then colleges but i doubt that.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Not a surprise. More and more its all about the piece of paper that so many jobs require. The money paid is an investment to get that piece of paper.

    Add to that the fact that more students are in college than there used to be and youre going to see an overall lower level of student.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Oh yeah, former business major looking at switching to communications.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    I think it depends very much on the major. As an engineer, I use a lot of the things I learned at ISU, even some of the things from my first and second year. I agree that I learned more about engineering in my first year of employment than in my 4.5 years at ISU, however I couldn't have learned what I did without the foundation I got in college.


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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Quote Originally Posted by besserheimerphat View Post
    I think it depends very much on the major. As an engineer, I use a lot of the things I learned at ISU, even some of the things from my first and second year. I agree that I learned more about engineering in my first year of employment than in my 4.5 years at ISU, however I couldn't have learned what I did without the foundation I got in college.
    Yeah, I don't think that would hold for engineers. The calc and physics I learned in my first 2 years was way ahead of anything I had previously.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    I got a degree in Business management but my education did nothing to prepare me really. The only asset I really gained was working hard for what you want. Everything was taught on the job. To get real application out of a degree I personally believe you need to specialize in something much like an engineering degree or something in the health field. But I also know many who used classroom experience to bring ideas and options to their profession that helped them gain in their field.



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    I feel like there was a lot that I could have been taught/learned while in my 4.5 years in college. I majored in Financed and I feel like some of my knowledge did not build up. I believe I have the fundamentals down, which were the beginning course in my major, but the upper level concepts I did not grasp. Of course part of it is my fault, but I think that professors are making their classes easier because students complain about them too much. Professors are not making the students think as much when doing assignments or on tests. This is where change needs to happen, with professors upping their critical thinking/figure it out your self.

    For any one who is a finance major, take a class with Dr. Floros, he is the type of professor who makes you think and it requires you to use your knowledge and figure things out your self. He really tests your ability not from a fundamental standpoint, but from an advanced level as well. He will make comments in front of the class about why students do not know certain information and basically says every is stupid and you will want to punch him for it, but its the truth for most students.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Yeah, as an engineer, when I had my co-op, I used a ton of what I had done in classes.


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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Quote Originally Posted by cycfan1 View Post
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    Not sure I learned a thing in college that is applicable to real life. I feel like I learned more in my internship than four years of college.
    I've learned more in 4 years of internships than I've ever learned in a class at Iowa State. Too many classes are set up where you learn something quick, then brain dump after exams. You're never going to know the intricacies of the tax code off the top of your head. The basics? Yeah. The crap Perkins tried to teach? Hell no. That's why people look stuff up.

    Open book/note tests aren't a bad thing so long as there's a time limit that is at least somewhat challenging so you can't look everything up.



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    Re: Most college students show little to no gains in learning

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    I've learned more in 4 years of internships than I've ever learned in a class at Iowa State. Too many classes are set up where you learn something quick, then brain dump after exams. You're never going to know the intricacies of the tax code off the top of your head. The basics? Yeah. The crap Perkins tried to teach? Hell no. That's why people look stuff up.

    Open book/note tests aren't a bad thing so long as there's a time limit that is at least somewhat challenging so you can't look everything up.
    Yeah. Thats why i liked the rare professors that focused more on thinking and open discussion than on minute details that may change or you wont need to know from memory anyways.



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