Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 28
  1. #1
    All-Star
    Points: 30,572, Level: 53
    Level completed: 75%, Points required for next Level: 278
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,416
    Points
    30,572
    Level
    53
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 98
    Given: 0

    Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    According to Rivals, our current recruiting class is ranked 9th out of 10 in the Big 12. Ahead of KSU. I thought for sure we'd also be ahead of Kansas. Oh well, baby steps!



  2. #2
    Prospect
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    55
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    reason why not higher, no DL



  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 592,236, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteranRecommendation Second Class
    ISUAgronomist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Close Enough, IA
    Posts
    22,368
    Points
    592,236
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,245
    Given: 687

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by sogocat View Post
    reason why not higher, average * determines "ranking"
    FIFY



  4. #4
    Pro
    Points: 49,403, Level: 68
    Level completed: 76%, Points required for next Level: 347
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    StLouisClone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    St. Louis
    Posts
    2,756
    Points
    49,403
    Level
    68
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 14
    Given: 5

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by sogocat View Post
    reason why not higher, no DL
    Our best DL recruits in the last 6 classes were Ahtyba Rubin (high 3-star Juco) back in 2006 and Chris Lyle (high 3-star Juco) back in 2007. Since then:

    2008: Cleyon Laing (2-star), Roosevelt Maggitt (2-star), Jake McDonough (3-star) and S. Ruempolhamer (2-star).

    2009: Walter Woods (2-star), Aaron Moore (3-star), Jacob Lattimer (3-star)

    2010: Brandon Jensen (2-star), Nick Kron (2-star), Rony Nelson (3-star)

    2011: David Irving (2-star), Devin Lemke (3-star)

    The coaches have done an amazing job working with the talent they have. But at some point our lack of defensive tackles is going to catch up with us. Or am I just being a negative nelly?

    Take a look at Oklahoma's roster. They go 5-deep at the DE position and 4-deep at the DT position. Why not come to ISU and play right away? Become the next Tuba Rubin!!


    Last edited by StLouisClone; 01-16-2011 at 10:45 AM.

  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 96,917, Level: 96
    Level completed: 94%, Points required for next Level: 133
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsSocial
    dualthreat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    8,397
    Points
    96,917
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 916
    Given: 79

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    some guys like winning national championships. plus, their told they will come in and start or at least play.... for sure by the time they're a jr or sr



  6. #6
    All-Star
    Points: 30,572, Level: 53
    Level completed: 75%, Points required for next Level: 278
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,416
    Points
    30,572
    Level
    53
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 98
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Count me as someone who would like to see more commitments from defensive linemen. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball, and our lack of depth at DL is a legit concern.



  7. #7
    Starter
    Points: 21,559, Level: 44
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 91
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    834
    Points
    21,559
    Level
    44
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    I understand why people are worried about defensive line, but we finished 7th in the Big 12 in total defense this year (middle of the pack) and 11th in total offense. Based on actual results, it seems like we have more work to do on offense.



  8. #8
    Addict
    Points: 73,516, Level: 84
    Level completed: 22%, Points required for next Level: 1,334
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Rogue52's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Posts
    6,610
    Points
    73,516
    Level
    84
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 396
    Given: 15

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Didn't someone in the recruiting business say that there really wasn't going to be many DL recruits available for anyone but the top schools, so coaches were going to HAVE to develop talent?

    Nothing really new here at ISU. Major reason we are better off with Rhoads than Chizik: talent development.



  9. #9
    Starter
    Points: 21,559, Level: 44
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 91
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    834
    Points
    21,559
    Level
    44
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    Count me as someone who would like to see more commitments from defensive linemen. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball, and our lack of depth at DL is a legit concern.
    Getting Green and Filimoeatu would be big for DL depth. At DE we would have Lattimer, Maggitt, Neal, Nelson, and Filimoeatu. At DT we would have Ruemp, McDonough, Laing, and Green. That's nine guys, which isn't even counting guys like Woods, Moore, Scott, Jensen, and Krick, all of whom are underclassmen who could earn some playing time.



  10. #10
    Pro
    Points: 52,627, Level: 71
    Level completed: 6%, Points required for next Level: 1,423
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    pyrocyz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    2,839
    Points
    52,627
    Level
    71
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4
    Given: 1

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Hand it to people to take any recruiting thread and turning it a thread about the lack of defensive linemen. There is concern about this but does it really have to take over every discussion.



  11. #11
    Addict
    Points: 104,809, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 45.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    8,295
    Points
    104,809
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 634
    Given: 1,125

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan15 View Post
    I understand why people are worried about defensive line, but we finished 7th in the Big 12 in total defense this year (middle of the pack) and 11th in total offense. Based on actual results, it seems like we have more work to do on offense.
    Defense wins championships and I have more faith that Wally can get more out of guys than I do Herman. Look what Wally has done with a lack of resources.


    "Not at the table Carlos."

  12. #12
    Pro
    Points: 43,211, Level: 64
    Level completed: 21%, Points required for next Level: 1,039
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    jburke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    3,234
    Points
    43,211
    Level
    64
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 343
    Given: 268

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    I don't get how Rival does these National ranking, for one, Boise St. is rated 50th with a 2.48 average, we are not in the top 50 but have a 2.69 rating and more 3 star recruits, makes no sense. Than if you look at the per position break down, in almost every category we are in the top 30 and yet we are not even in the top 50. I think if we land one of our DT blue chippers we will improve vastly.


    Last edited by jburke; 01-16-2011 at 08:53 PM.

  13. #13
    All-Star
    Points: 18,990, Level: 42
    Level completed: 5%, Points required for next Level: 860
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    La Fox, IL
    Posts
    1,686
    Points
    18,990
    Level
    42
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 133
    Given: 165

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    I don't get how Rival does these National ranking, for one, Boise St. is rated 50th with a 2.48 average, we are not in the top 50 but have a 2.69 rating and more 3 star recruits, makes no sense. Than if you look at the per position break down, in almost every category we are in the top 30 and yet we are not even in the top 50. I think if we land one of our DT blue chippers we will improve vastly.
    I do not know my self, but some 3 star recruits are worth more points than others. For example, when Nealy committed to ISU, the team points i think almost doubled. That happened because he was a highly rated 3 star recruit (5.7 Rivals Rating). We have a lot of Recruits who are rated at 5.5, which is a 3 star, but a 5.4 or lower is a 2 star. A 5.8 rating is a four star. Even though we have a higher average, Boise State probably has more talented 3 star recruits than us in the eyes of Rivals.



  14. #14
    Speechless
    Points: 371,276, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialYour first GroupRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Tre4ISU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Estherville
    Posts
    22,102
    Points
    371,276
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,177
    Given: 222

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    I do not know my self, but some 3 star recruits are worth more points than others. For example, when Nealy committed to ISU, the team points i think almost doubled. That happened because he was a highly rated 3 star recruit (5.7 Rivals Rating). We have a lot of Recruits who are rated at 5.5, which is a 3 star, but a 5.4 or lower is a 2 star. A 5.8 rating is a four star. Even though we have a higher average, Boise State probably has more talented 3 star recruits than us in the eyes of Rivals.
    This is likely right. I believe they rank by total points but I'm not sure. We have quite a few 5.5 guys.


    This is very important:

    2014-15 KenPom AdjO (rating)
    116.3 (11)

    2015-16 KenPom AdjO (rating
    120.7 (3)

  15. #15
    Pro
    Points: 56,415, Level: 73
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 635
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Yes13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    3,323
    Points
    56,415
    Level
    73
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 19
    Given: 24

    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    We are ranked at 54th in the country right now.

    I don't really understand how they get the points. When Jantz got upgraded to a 5.6 3 star we scored like 115 points. When Nealy, a 5.7 3 star, committed we got around 100. But with Bundrage who is also a 5.6 3 star, we only got 17 points.

    I've also heard that rivals is gonna update some 5/4 star recruits this week. Any chance Nealy gets a lil bump?



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: TBA
  • Football Season Opener vs. UNI
  • September 3, 2016
  • 07:00 PM