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    Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    According to Rivals, our current recruiting class is ranked 9th out of 10 in the Big 12. Ahead of KSU. I thought for sure we'd also be ahead of Kansas. Oh well, baby steps!



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    reason why not higher, no DL



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by sogocat View Post
    reason why not higher, average * determines "ranking"
    FIFY



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by sogocat View Post
    reason why not higher, no DL
    Our best DL recruits in the last 6 classes were Ahtyba Rubin (high 3-star Juco) back in 2006 and Chris Lyle (high 3-star Juco) back in 2007. Since then:

    2008: Cleyon Laing (2-star), Roosevelt Maggitt (2-star), Jake McDonough (3-star) and S. Ruempolhamer (2-star).

    2009: Walter Woods (2-star), Aaron Moore (3-star), Jacob Lattimer (3-star)

    2010: Brandon Jensen (2-star), Nick Kron (2-star), Rony Nelson (3-star)

    2011: David Irving (2-star), Devin Lemke (3-star)

    The coaches have done an amazing job working with the talent they have. But at some point our lack of defensive tackles is going to catch up with us. Or am I just being a negative nelly?

    Take a look at Oklahoma's roster. They go 5-deep at the DE position and 4-deep at the DT position. Why not come to ISU and play right away? Become the next Tuba Rubin!!


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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    some guys like winning national championships. plus, their told they will come in and start or at least play.... for sure by the time they're a jr or sr



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Count me as someone who would like to see more commitments from defensive linemen. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball, and our lack of depth at DL is a legit concern.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    I understand why people are worried about defensive line, but we finished 7th in the Big 12 in total defense this year (middle of the pack) and 11th in total offense. Based on actual results, it seems like we have more work to do on offense.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Didn't someone in the recruiting business say that there really wasn't going to be many DL recruits available for anyone but the top schools, so coaches were going to HAVE to develop talent?

    Nothing really new here at ISU. Major reason we are better off with Rhoads than Chizik: talent development.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    Count me as someone who would like to see more commitments from defensive linemen. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball, and our lack of depth at DL is a legit concern.
    Getting Green and Filimoeatu would be big for DL depth. At DE we would have Lattimer, Maggitt, Neal, Nelson, and Filimoeatu. At DT we would have Ruemp, McDonough, Laing, and Green. That's nine guys, which isn't even counting guys like Woods, Moore, Scott, Jensen, and Krick, all of whom are underclassmen who could earn some playing time.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Hand it to people to take any recruiting thread and turning it a thread about the lack of defensive linemen. There is concern about this but does it really have to take over every discussion.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan15 View Post
    I understand why people are worried about defensive line, but we finished 7th in the Big 12 in total defense this year (middle of the pack) and 11th in total offense. Based on actual results, it seems like we have more work to do on offense.
    Defense wins championships and I have more faith that Wally can get more out of guys than I do Herman. Look what Wally has done with a lack of resources.


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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    I don't get how Rival does these National ranking, for one, Boise St. is rated 50th with a 2.48 average, we are not in the top 50 but have a 2.69 rating and more 3 star recruits, makes no sense. Than if you look at the per position break down, in almost every category we are in the top 30 and yet we are not even in the top 50. I think if we land one of our DT blue chippers we will improve vastly.


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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    I don't get how Rival does these National ranking, for one, Boise St. is rated 50th with a 2.48 average, we are not in the top 50 but have a 2.69 rating and more 3 star recruits, makes no sense. Than if you look at the per position break down, in almost every category we are in the top 30 and yet we are not even in the top 50. I think if we land one of our DT blue chippers we will improve vastly.
    I do not know my self, but some 3 star recruits are worth more points than others. For example, when Nealy committed to ISU, the team points i think almost doubled. That happened because he was a highly rated 3 star recruit (5.7 Rivals Rating). We have a lot of Recruits who are rated at 5.5, which is a 3 star, but a 5.4 or lower is a 2 star. A 5.8 rating is a four star. Even though we have a higher average, Boise State probably has more talented 3 star recruits than us in the eyes of Rivals.



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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    I do not know my self, but some 3 star recruits are worth more points than others. For example, when Nealy committed to ISU, the team points i think almost doubled. That happened because he was a highly rated 3 star recruit (5.7 Rivals Rating). We have a lot of Recruits who are rated at 5.5, which is a 3 star, but a 5.4 or lower is a 2 star. A 5.8 rating is a four star. Even though we have a higher average, Boise State probably has more talented 3 star recruits than us in the eyes of Rivals.
    This is likely right. I believe they rank by total points but I'm not sure. We have quite a few 5.5 guys.


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    Re: Big 12 Recruiting Rankings

    We are ranked at 54th in the country right now.

    I don't really understand how they get the points. When Jantz got upgraded to a 5.6 3 star we scored like 115 points. When Nealy, a 5.7 3 star, committed we got around 100. But with Bundrage who is also a 5.6 3 star, we only got 17 points.

    I've also heard that rivals is gonna update some 5/4 star recruits this week. Any chance Nealy gets a lil bump?



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