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    Surround Sound help?!?

    I am looking for a music store or place I could talk to an expert about possibly buying sound system. I am trying to hold dance socials at a community center in St Louis, the floor size is roughly 20 by 20 sq ft and its an in house "closed" dance space. I am looking for affordable sound system that I can buy locally in St Louis. Not sure if I should go to Best Buy, the people there probably won't know much. Once again, this won't be anything like a club atmosphere. It will be just a social gathering of dance students who would dance to the music. I have a general idea of what I want. I was even thinking of buying a 1000 W home theater system for it. I guess I am just looking for an expert's opinion.

    Again, the space is just enough for 20 people dancing. I really don't think a heavy duty set up of surround sound is needed. Maybe one mixer, two amplifiers with 2 speakers will do? Again, no idea who I should talk to in town or what options I should go with.

    I guess you wouldn't know exactly where I should go either for help in St Louis, however, if you have experience with the kind of setup I am thinking, please let me know. I could really use some help. Thanks.


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    #1 You don't need a surround system. Two floor standing speakers would probably be fine.

    #2 Ignore watts. They mean nothing. If I had my choice between a 1,000 watt receiver and a 100 watt/channel I'd probably lean towards the 100.

    #3 Most important. What's your budget?


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    #1 You don't need a surround system. Two floor standing speakers would probably be fine.

    #2 Ignore watts. They mean nothing. If I had my choice between a 1,000 watt receiver and a 100 watt/channel I'd probably lean towards the 100.

    #3 Most important. What's your budget?

    My budget is $200 but I can always look at stuff on craigslist. I was actually looking at this system right here:
    Sony 5.1 Home theatre system - HT-SS360

    But that's probably an overkill. :(


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    My budget is $200 but I can always look at stuff on craigslist. I was actually looking at this system right here:
    Sony 5.1 Home theatre system - HT-SS360

    But that's probably an overkill. :(

    Your kind of in a special situation since you don't need to have surround sound but you'll probably have to buy a receiver with that ability. In your situation I would really focus on the speakers. That receiver would be fine but those speakers are not going to handle the environment that you describe.



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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    My budget is $200 but I can always look at stuff on craigslist. I was actually looking at this system right here:
    Sony 5.1 Home theatre system - HT-SS360

    But that's probably an overkill. :(
    You are going to try and fill a 20x20 room with bookshelf speakers? Yeah that is not going to work at all.


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    You can easily find a used receiver for $100-$150 that will work. You will have a hard time finding speakers in your price range.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    You can easily find a used receiver for $100-$150 that will work. You will have a hard time finding speakers in your price range.
    This is good. As of now, I am ruling out the home surround sound concept. Let's say I buy a receiver for $100 to $150. How much should I be looking at spending for speakers. Please feel free to send me some links from amazon or something for speakers. I trully appreciate all the help I can get. Thank you fellow Cyclone!


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    This is good. As of now, I am ruling out the home surround sound concept. Let's say I buy a receiver for $100 to $150. How much should I be looking at spending for speakers. Please feel free to send me some links from amazon or something for speakers. I trully appreciate all the help I can get. Thank you fellow Cyclone!
    In your area, what about these?

    Very Nice Set of DJ/Party Speakers

    I don't know the condition and you'd have to hear them.

    In this type of situation you really don't need clarity just power. I assume this location doesn't have carpet which makes it even harder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    In your area, what about these?

    Very Nice Set of DJ/Party Speakers

    I don't know the condition and you'd have to hear them.
    So I should probably look for a receiver that can deliver at least 300 W to each channel, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    So I should probably look for a receiver that can deliver at least 300 W to each channel, right?
    No. I assume the 300 watt means max but not 100%. It's really a crap shoot with these types of speakers. Some cost $10K new while others cost $69/speaker. By not listing the name I assume they are cheap ones.

    I would contact the seller and see what brand of speakers these are, if they would work fine with a standard receiver, what types of speaker inputs(just plain speaker wire?), etc



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    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    No. I assume the 300 watt means max but not 100%. It's really a crap shoot with these types of speakers. Some cost $10K new while others cost $69/speaker. By not listing the name I assume they are cheap ones.

    I would contact the seller and see what brand of speakers these are, if they would work fine with a standard receiver, what types of speaker inputs(just plain speaker wire?), etc

    Just so we are on the same page. I need a receiver and a set of maybe 2 floor speakers at the very minimum correct?


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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by clonomaniac View Post
    Just so we are on the same page. I need a receiver and a set of maybe 2 floor speakers at the very minimum correct?

    That's correct. I'd suggest a set of speakers like the DJ speakers someone posted above and find a used 2 channel (2 speaker) receiver that will have at least 100W per channel. For a 20x20 room, that will be adequate. It certainly won't be the highest quality sound, but it should do the job very nicely for your purpose.

    Getting a 5 or 7 channel receiver (for home theater surround) will work, but will be overkill and cost more and isn't what you really need (as I understand it).

    This is the type of receiver I'm referring to:

    Amazon.com: Sony STR-DH100 2-Channel Audio Receiver (Black): Electronics



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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Clonomaniac - make sure that when you start looking at equipment that you don't use the term "surround sound". What you have described sounds more like "audio distribution" - the difference between the two is that in the "surround" format, each speaker has a dedicated (usually adjustable) channel for their audio and the sum of the speakers equal the full sound desired; in the case of "distribution" you are getting the same (usually fixed) sound out of every speaker and the speakers are distributed evenly to fill the room.

    Under the assumption that you only have 1 source (a CD player), you could easily get away with a set-up like this:

    1 of these: PylePro Mini 2x75W Stereo Power Amplifier : Amplifiers | RadioShack.com

    2 of these: 10” 75-Watt 2-Way PA Monitor Speaker - RadioShack.com

    and your speaker wire: 50-Ft. 24-Gauge Clear 2-Conductor Speaker Wire - RadioShack.com

    this would put you right at around $200.



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    Re: Surround Sound help?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3GenClone View Post
    Clonomaniac - make sure that when you start looking at equipment that you don't use the term "surround sound". What you have described sounds more like "audio distribution" - the difference between the two is that in the "surround" format, each speaker has a dedicated (usually adjustable) channel for their audio and the sum of the speakers equal the full sound desired; in the case of "distribution" you are getting the same (usually fixed) sound out of every speaker and the speakers are distributed evenly to fill the room.

    Under the assumption that you only have 1 source (a CD player), you could easily get away with a set-up like this:

    1 of these: PylePro Mini 2x75W Stereo Power Amplifier : Amplifiers | RadioShack.com

    2 of these: 10” 75-Watt 2-Way PA Monitor Speaker - RadioShack.com

    and your speaker wire: 50-Ft. 24-Gauge Clear 2-Conductor Speaker Wire - RadioShack.com

    this would put you right at around $200.
    That would probably work much better for a big room than a home theater in a box.


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