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    Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT


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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    NY Times .. not bad. The promising start, coupled w/ Hoiberg's natural link to ISU, is helping to create some buzz. That might not carry water in two years, but it's better than being irrelevant (or generating attention for bad reasons).

    One part reflected poorly on Pollard (at least as it pertains to his early awareness of ISU sports):

    Pollard barely knew Hoiberg and did not take him seriously.

    “I thought he was another great player who thinks he can coach, and they’re a dime a dozen in this industry,” Pollard said.

    I wouldn't expect a new AD from "outside the system" to be an expert on every detail of Cyclones history. But we're talking about being only a decade removed from an icon of ISU MBB. If that excerpt is true, it makes Pollard look like nothing more than a figurehead.

    This is not to say Hoiberg should have been on the short list to follow Wayne. For one thing, hindsight is 20-20 as far as WM's successor — nobody could foresee the mediocrity of the GM years, no matter who was selected. Plus, we have no idea if Fred will succeed at the helm.

    Anyway. Minor point — it was a feel-good article at this point.


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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    God, I'm in man-love with Fred. I can't help it.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    I'm kind of bothered by the idea that people will turn on him if he's not successful as head coach (and no one will be more surprised if he isn't). I think I'm realistic enough to know that some would.

    Whatever happens during his tenure at Iowa State, Freddie will always be my favorite Cyclone. Always.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    This is not to say Hoiberg should have been on the short list to follow Wayne. For one thing, hindsight is 20-20 as far as WM's successor — nobody could foresee the mediocrity of the GM years, no matter who was selected. Plus, we have no idea if Fred will succeed at the helm.

    Anyway. Minor point — it was a feel-good article at this point.
    Only one thing, IMO, the GM years were far from mediocre. They were flat out bad!



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    I do love this quote for Fred in the article; “There’s something special about Iowa State basketball, especially when you grow up in this town.”He is damn right! I hope our success continues.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbai1986 View Post
    I do love this quote for Fred in the article; “There’s something special about Iowa State basketball, especially when you grow up in this town.”He is damn right! I hope our success continues.
    Especially with that being said by someone who has played and seen basketball at so many other places.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    NY Times .. not bad. The promising start, coupled w/ Hoiberg's natural link to ISU, is helping to create some buzz. That might not carry water in two years, but it's better than being irrelevant (or generating attention for bad reasons).

    One part reflected poorly on Pollard (at least as it pertains to his early awareness of ISU sports):

    Pollard barely knew Hoiberg and did not take him seriously.

    “I thought he was another great player who thinks he can coach, and they’re a dime a dozen in this industry,” Pollard said.

    I wouldn't expect a new AD from "outside the system" to be an expert on every detail of Cyclones history. But we're talking about being only a decade removed from an icon of ISU MBB. If that excerpt is true, it makes Pollard look like nothing more than a figurehead.

    This is not to say Hoiberg should have been on the short list to follow Wayne. For one thing, hindsight is 20-20 as far as WM's successor — nobody could foresee the mediocrity of the GM years, no matter who was selected. Plus, we have no idea if Fred will succeed at the helm.

    Anyway. Minor point — it was a feel-good article at this point.
    I don't blame Pollard for that line of thinking in the least. I've met and went to school while Fred was at ISU and I thought the same. Certainly ISU as a first job is unusual and him as a candidate after WM wouldn't have crossed my mind.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Somebody needs to be applauded for getting this in the NY Times. We are recruiting that area and somebody within ISU is responsible for getting this story over to the writer/paper.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Somebody needs to be applauded for getting this in the NY Times. We are recruiting that area and somebody within ISU is responsible for getting this story over to the writer/paper.

    Exactly. To get this sort of article outside of Big 12 country is the best part. If I didn't know that was in the NY Times I would have guessed Kansas City or Dallas. Great exposure and I am sure that this link/article has been sent to a few guys in NYC who are considering the Cyclones.


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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    If you had to choose between having Fred Hoiberg or having Mad Cow [Disease], which would you choose?



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Somebody needs to be applauded for getting this in the NY Times. We are recruiting that area and somebody within ISU is responsible for getting this story over to the writer/paper.
    Agreed. I do wish the article would have talked abit more about the great job of bring in recruits and how much they love to play his new style. They said something about a new O, but didn't push much more then that. I they could have added a NY slant to it and really help us with the new recruits we are looking at in the NY area. Still very good read and I love the strong press.




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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Very good article!! I will admit, I was not very happy the day that Iowa State hired Fred. I thought that there was many more proven coaches out there that shoulda been hired. But the moment that this team stepped foot on that court, there was just something different! I have since changed my mind. This team plays with heart and doesn't quit! Fred has this team believing they can beat anyone and play with great attitude. This could be the most risky hire by ISU but could also be one of the best. Gotta praise Pollard for havin "big ones" when making this hire.


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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by AlleyAddict View Post
    God, I'm in man-love with Fred. I can't help it.
    QFT.



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    Re: Nice story on Hoiberg in the NYT

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    One part reflected poorly on Pollard (at least as it pertains to his early awareness of ISU sports):

    Pollard barely knew Hoiberg and did not take him seriously.

    “I thought he was another great player who thinks he can coach, and they’re a dime a dozen in this industry,” Pollard said.

    I wouldn't expect a new AD from "outside the system" to be an expert on every detail of Cyclones history. But we're talking about being only a decade removed from an icon of ISU MBB. If that excerpt is true, it makes Pollard look like nothing more than a figurehead.
    I gave JP the benefit of the doubt on that, could've been taken slightly out of context, or over-simplified a bit to make it more of an underdog story for the national readers who aren't familiar with ISU. Plus I'll admit Fred was a little before my time, I was 10-13 when he played but not much of a sports fan until I attended ISU. I was definitely aware of who he was when he came back to have his jersey retired, but am just now fully realizing his magic.

    Either way, I got a good laugh at the next line in the article:
    But at Pollard’s suggestion, Hoiberg became a top-level donor to the athletic department, and they kept in touch.
    I would've figured Fred was already a donor, and maybe so, but I got a good laugh out of picturing Jamie saying 'well Fred,we don't have a spot for you right now, but why don't you join the Cyclone Club, maybe buy some tickets to donate, and we'll keep your resume on file in case anything opens up in a few years.' That's not a knock at JP in any way, I just got a laugh out of it.

    Anyways, great to see ISU get some national pub, this thing could be on the verge of blooming into a major fairytale... A fairytale that lasts for a loooooong time.


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