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    Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud - Yahoo! News
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    The first study to link a childhood vaccine to autism was based on doctored information about the children involved, according to a new report on the widely discredited research. The conclusions of the 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues was renounced by 10 of its 13 authors and later retracted by the medical journal Lancet, where it was published. Still, the suggestion the MMR shot was connected to autism spooked parents worldwide and immunization rates for measles, mumps and rubella have never fully recovered.
    A new examination found, by comparing the reported diagnoses in the paper to hospital records, that Wakefield and colleagues altered facts about patients in their study.
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    Last May, Wakefield was stripped of his right to practice medicine in Britain. Many other published studies have shown no connection between the MMR vaccination and autism.
    But measles has surged since Wakefield's paper was published and there are sporadic outbreaks in Europe and the U.S. In 2008, measles was deemed endemic in England and Wales.


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    Medical journal: Study linking autism, vaccines is 'elaborate fraud' - CNN.com
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    The now-discredited paper panicked many parents and led to a sharp drop in the number of children getting the vaccine that prevents measles, mumps and rubella.
    Vaccination rates dropped sharply in Britain after its publication, falling as low as 80% by 2004. Measles cases have gone up sharply in the ensuing years.
    In the United States, more cases of measles were reported in 2008 than in any other year since 1997, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 90% of those infected had not been vaccinated or their vaccination status was unknown, the CDC reported.


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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    The journal article was pulled many months ago and reported then. Additionally, the author had his medical license pulled in the U.K. Not sure why the news outlets are regurgitating old news.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    The bottom line is that it is in the best interests of children to be vaccinated. The supposed connection between vaccines and autism is not supported by research.


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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    The bottom line is that it is in the best interests of children to be vaccinated. The supposed connection between vaccines and autism is not supported by research.
    Agreed.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by isuaggie View Post
    Agreed.

    Old news are not. Where are all those who said, "I've done the research and I'm not running the risk with my kids!"


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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    this will only shake the heads of our child's doctors as we continue to string out the MANY vaccines of our time.

    It is a scary proposition to inject your child with so many mercury-based products, so we have decided to extend the vaccination period by spacing them out. It seems to be a crapshoot with autism, but that is the most common ailment per 100 so we are spacing the shots further than normal as well as using natural cleaners on our floors.

    It should be noted that I love pledge and will use it come hell or high water.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    The key with any medicine, in my opinion, is do the benefits outweigh the risks involved. I think it needs to be remembered that everyone has a unique personal chemistry, and what saves your life may end another. I think drugs need to be assessed with this in mind (as well as class action lawsuits). It's very unfortunate when a bad reaction causes problem for some, but if it saves 10 others, it may be worth it.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by drmwevr08 View Post
    Old news are not. Where are all those who said, "I've done the research and I'm not running the risk with my kids!"
    It's easy to take that morally-superior stance of "I'm not vaccinating my child" when everyone else vaccinating their children is what's keeping your child safe/alive.


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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Heard there might be some environmental connection along busy roads. Really, they need to figure the cause out soon.


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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    This link is to an opinion piece in the current Newsweek, but ties in nicely with this thread. Money: The Link Between Autism and Vaccines - Newsweek



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by CyLoboClone View Post
    this will only shake the heads of our child's doctors as we continue to string out the MANY vaccines of our time.

    It is a scary proposition to inject your child with so many mercury-based products, so we have decided to extend the vaccination period by spacing them out. It seems to be a crapshoot with autism, but that is the most common ailment per 100 so we are spacing the shots further than normal as well as using natural cleaners on our floors.

    It should be noted that I love pledge and will use it come hell or high water.
    Mercury is no longer used in vaccines. And there is no connection to autism. None at all. It was all made up.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    The key with any medicine, in my opinion, is do the benefits outweigh the risks involved. I think it needs to be remembered that everyone has a unique personal chemistry, and what saves your life may end another. I think drugs need to be assessed with this in mind (as well as class action lawsuits). It's very unfortunate when a bad reaction causes problem for some, but if it saves 10 others, it may be worth it.
    I agree with this in principle, but your 1 in 10 ratio is a bit off. I think you need quite a few more zeroes to ***** the possible negative consequences of vaccines. And with autism, there appears to be no risk whatsoever.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    Mercury is no longer used in vaccines. And there is no connection to autism. None at all. It was all made up.
    Is this 100%? I believe there are still a few vaccines that use some mercury. Not jumping into the debate, but a fact check.



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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    Quote Originally Posted by LindenCy View Post
    Is this 100%? I believe there are still a few vaccines that use some mercury. Not jumping into the debate, but a fact check.
    Gone in most but some versions of the flu vaccine still have it.

    FDA Table:
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    Re: Study Linking Autism to Vaccines an "Elaborate Fraud"

    And most vaccines in Europe have no mercury anymore.


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