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    Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Jim Harbaugh's First Two Recruiting Classes
    Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Stanford Commitments
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    Paul Rhoads' First Two Recruiting Classes
    Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2009 Iowa St. Commitments
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    Football at Stanford 2002-2006
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    JH's Current Recruiting Class
    Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Stanford Commitments

    PR's Current Recruiting Class
    Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Iowa St. Commitments



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Owen Marecic was a 5.1 2-star.



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_Alum_2000 View Post
    Owen Marecic was a 5.1 2-star.
    Shows how well rivals rates players sometimes.



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Sims
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    All 2*s. And that is just after two years of contribution, let alone four.

    Goes to show how much stars mean.

    To the OP, this is the post of the year. +1000000



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Great work Jukebox. Very cool to see. Impressive by the Stanford staff.



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Harbaugh's got everything going for him. He's a good coach and recruiter. Here's his last 4 recruiting classes.
    2008 #50
    2009 #20
    2010 #26
    2011 #11



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by trajanJ View Post
    Harbaugh's got everything going for him. He's a good coach and recruiter. Here's his last 4 recruiting classes.
    2008 #50
    2009 #20
    2010 #26
    2011 #11
    The thing is he took classes ranked 50+ and turned them into winning seasons before he got those really good classes.

    Develop to get a winning team====>have a winning team=====>recruits notice you can win======>take next step



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    The thing is he took classes ranked 50+ and turned them into winning seasons before he got those really good classes.

    Develop to get a winning team====>have a winning team=====>recruits notice you can win======>take next step
    His first winning season came last year when he had quite a few players currently playing that were part of top 50 or better classes including his qb who was a 4 star and is a big part of Stanfords offensive production. Don't get me wrong I believe the recruiting services do have some misses but if your trying to win consistently you need to have good recruiting classes. Winning without it happens but it is very rare.



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Looks like Stanford really could develop their players well under JH..
    Matt Masifilo



    Andrew Luck





    Owen Marecic




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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by trajanJ View Post
    His first winning season came last year when he had quite a few players currently playing that were part of top 50 or better classes including his qb who was a 4 star and is a big part of Stanfords offensive production. Don't get me wrong I believe the recruiting services do have some misses but if your trying to win consistently you need to have good recruiting classes. Winning without it happens but it is very rare.
    You do realize that his 2009 class (#20 in the nation) were only freshman his first year of winning right? The core of that team was made of modest recruiting classes.

    I am not talking about not needing good recruiting classes! I am talking about a chicken or the egg thing. I believe you need to show you can develop talent, do more with less, and find hidden gems to demonstrate your value as a coach. Only then will you be able to have credibility with recruits and pull in top ranked classes.


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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Stanford is practically like going to Harvard or Yale. Man, if I went to Stanford, I would have pathways not previously open. I think that the athletes that sign there have to see the price tag of tuition- 50k- and thank their lucky stars they got a scholy, then chuckle at kids going to udub or oregon state.



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    Re: Stanford vs. Iowa State

    Quote Originally Posted by CyLoboClone View Post
    Stanford is practically like going to Harvard or Yale. Man, if I went to Stanford, I would have pathways not previously open. I think that the athletes that sign there have to see the price tag of tuition- 50k- and thank their lucky stars they got a scholy, then chuckle at kids going to udub or oregon state.
    Well, keep in mind that they still have to meet entrance requirements. Quite a few kids playing at UW or OSU don't meet those requirements. Heck, neither do a majority of college students, regardless of athletic status.


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