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    Hilton atmosphere

    A little background: I was in the ISU Pep Band in the late 80's. I played with the Alumni Pep Band last night for the first time in quite a while. I was surprised at how little we actually got to play, and how prevalent the canned music and promotions like the "pasta lift" are.
    I understand that we want a family-friendly environment, so as much as I dislike the helmet shuffles, I realize I'm not the target audience. But although I am biased, it seemed to me that pep band music gave more energy to the crowd than hearing "We Will Rock You" played twice during the same game.
    I'd like to hear your unbiased thoughts (and not just regarding the Alumni Pep Band aspect). Do you like the mix of dead-ball entertainment?


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    I miss the dancing baby.


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    The regular pep band gets to play more than the alumni pep band did last night. At least you guys got to play more than the Ames High pep band that played during the Dartmouth game.


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    They're still doing the 'pump the pasta' crap?



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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by Naughtius View Post
    A little background: I was in the ISU Pep Band in the late 80's. I played with the Alumni Pep Band last night for the first time in quite a while. I was surprised at how little we actually got to play, and how prevalent the canned music and promotions like the "pasta lift" are.
    I understand that we want a family-friendly environment, so as much as I dislike the helmet shuffles, I realize I'm not the target audience. But although I am biased, it seemed to me that pep band music gave more energy to the crowd than hearing "We Will Rock You" played twice during the same game.
    I'd like to hear your unbiased thoughts (and not just regarding the Alumni Pep Band aspect). Do you like the mix of dead-ball entertainment?
    I've failed to miss a home basketball game in the last quarter century, so I feel at least qualified to reply to this.

    Last night, the song that got everyone going the most, more than even the fight song, was the Mortal Kombat theme. This isn't unusual, they tend to break it out during the late-game time outs that the visiting team calls to try to take the crowd out of the game, and this song just destroys that plan.

    In general, it's a fairly mixed bag. My opinion of the pep band is pretty mixed most of the time. They add a lot to the atmosphere, but some times they seem to simply be tacked on, not adding much with their song selection at times.

    That being said, they rarely actually deflate the crowd. While they may not get the crowd pumped up, they rarely hurt either.

    That cannot be said for the canned music/promotions.

    In the last 3 years, promotions like the pump-up-the-______, Applebees Apple Shuffle, Smile Cam, Flex Cam, etc just kill the crowd. They go silent except for a handful of kids in the stands and a few drunk students. It fully kills the atmosphere.

    And I cannot state how bad I think some of the other promotions are. The "best dressed fan" competition always goes to some little kid or group of kids who's parents just bought them a sweatshirt inside the arena. What about the student who dressed like a monkey in coveralls? Or the little girl in the balcony in full cheerleader uniform? Or even the weird faculty member with the hat-of-a-thousand cys?

    West Towne Pub's Cyclone Jukebox Pick of the Week: same video as last year with the drunk sweaty guy with the broken neck introducing some lame piece of music we've already heard a half dozen times that game. It kills the crowd, and in the two years its been a staple at home games, only about a dozen people have picked up on the "we love the cyclones" thing that he's trying to start. Time to at least refilm the intro and rethink the music selection.

    Shoot Five for Five: I loved it when this blast from the past was going to be brought back, but it's flopping right now. Tron tries way too hard on the mic and it comes across as fake.

    I have grown over the last 5 years to really dislike large portions of our game experience. I know ISU is shooting for a more "family friendly" type of atmosphere, but I can tell you, I've been coming to basketball games since I was 4, and aside from Johnny, there was nothing unfriendly to children about the atmosphere before these lame promotions got shoe-horned into the time outs.

    Just my take.



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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    The band annoys me with their stupid cheers they do sometimes during the game.



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    Did they build any hamburgers with Angie last night?


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by isufan View Post
    The band annoys me with their stupid cheers they do sometimes during the game.
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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeborg View Post
    I've failed to miss a home basketball game in the last quarter century, so I feel at least qualified to reply to this.

    Last night, the song that got everyone going the most, more than even the fight song, was the Mortal Kombat theme. This isn't unusual, they tend to break it out during the late-game time outs that the visiting team calls to try to take the crowd out of the game, and this song just destroys that plan.

    In general, it's a fairly mixed bag. My opinion of the pep band is pretty mixed most of the time. They add a lot to the atmosphere, but some times they seem to simply be tacked on, not adding much with their song selection at times.

    That being said, they rarely actually deflate the crowd. While they may not get the crowd pumped up, they rarely hurt either.

    That cannot be said for the canned music/promotions.

    In the last 3 years, promotions like the pump-up-the-______, Applebees Apple Shuffle, Smile Cam, Flex Cam, etc just kill the crowd. They go silent except for a handful of kids in the stands and a few drunk students. It fully kills the atmosphere.

    And I cannot state how bad I think some of the other promotions are. The "best dressed fan" competition always goes to some little kid or group of kids who's parents just bought them a sweatshirt inside the arena. What about the student who dressed like a monkey in coveralls? Or the little girl in the balcony in full cheerleader uniform? Or even the weird faculty member with the hat-of-a-thousand cys?

    West Towne Pub's Cyclone Jukebox Pick of the Week: same video as last year with the drunk sweaty guy with the broken neck introducing some lame piece of music we've already heard a half dozen times that game. It kills the crowd, and in the two years its been a staple at home games, only about a dozen people have picked up on the "we love the cyclones" thing that he's trying to start. Time to at least refilm the intro and rethink the music selection.

    Shoot Five for Five: I loved it when this blast from the past was going to be brought back, but it's flopping right now. Tron tries way too hard on the mic and it comes across as fake.

    I have grown over the last 5 years to really dislike large portions of our game experience. I know ISU is shooting for a more "family friendly" type of atmosphere, but I can tell you, I've been coming to basketball games since I was 4, and aside from Johnny, there was nothing unfriendly to children about the atmosphere before these lame promotions got shoe-horned into the time outs.

    Just my take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isufan View Post
    The band annoys me with their stupid cheers they do sometimes during the game.
    I think the only real criticism you can make of the band with regards to game atmosphere is occassionally questionable song selection.



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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by MNCyGuy View Post
    I think the only real criticism you can make of the band with regards to game atmosphere is occassionally questionable song selection.
    Disclaimer: I spent four years in the women's pep band, but had no involvement with the directing/headset.

    Where does the song selection come from? Is it director's choice, or is it dictated from on-high? (from my vantage point in the back row of the band I was simply hoping to see the count-off, and had no idea who decided our playlist).


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    Quote Originally Posted by iahawkhunter View Post
    Disclaimer: I spent four years in the women's pep band, but had no involvement with the directing/headset.

    Where does the song selection come from? Is it director's choice, or is it dictated from on-high? (from my vantage point in the back row of the band I was simply hoping to see the count-off, and had no idea who decided our playlist).
    Almost word for word the exact same situation here (in fact judging by the year on your sidebar, we probably played the same four years). I always assumed it was the directors. I just can't see the Hilton guys calling in over the headset, "Crowds dying, better hit them with some 'I Go to Rio'".



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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by iahawkhunter View Post
    Disclaimer: I spent four years in the women's pep band, but had no involvement with the directing/headset.

    Where does the song selection come from? Is it director's choice, or is it dictated from on-high? (from my vantage point in the back row of the band I was simply hoping to see the count-off, and had no idea who decided our playlist).
    Typically the director gets to pick the song. There are exceptions, of course. Most notably is the play-sing-play version of ISU Fights that is scripted (sometimes well after the outcome has already been decided). But the director has zero say as to when they get to play. That is strictly scripted or dictated by the Hilton staff.

    Of course, the Alumni Band song selection is somewhat limited by the fact that we get no time or facilities to practice, so they tend to be simpler. Having said that, I would like to see the Varsity Pep Band's repetoire broaden somewhat.


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by Naughtius View Post
    Typically the director gets to pick the song. There are exceptions, of course. Most notably is the play-sing-play version of ISU Fights that is scripted (sometimes well after the outcome has already been decided). But the director has zero say as to when they get to play. That is strictly scripted or dictated by the Hilton staff.

    Of course, the Alumni Band song selection is somewhat limited by the fact that we get no time or facilities to practice, so they tend to be simpler. Having said that, I would like to see the Varsity Pep Band's repetoire broaden somewhat.
    Thanks. This is the scenario I figured was most likely. I would imagine that the timing of when the band plays has an effect on the quality of the selection (i.e., "Thriller" may have sounded good at the time, but now that we've had to wait a while to play it's not as fitting).

    I can sympathize with the VPB's repertoire breadth. It's hard to keep the seniors from getting bored without drowning the freshmen. Thankfully a wider selection of music should be available shortly after classes resume and the pep band can rehearse without having to add to their marching band duties.


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    Re: Hilton atmosphere

    Quote Originally Posted by Naughtius View Post
    Typically the director gets to pick the song. There are exceptions, of course. Most notably is the play-sing-play version of ISU Fights that is scripted (sometimes well after the outcome has already been decided). But the director has zero say as to when they get to play. That is strictly scripted or dictated by the Hilton staff.

    Of course, the Alumni Band song selection is somewhat limited by the fact that we get no time or facilities to practice, so they tend to be simpler. Having said that, I would like to see the Varsity Pep Band's repetoire broaden somewhat.
    When I graduated the bands playbook consisted on approx. 150 songs, granted some of them do get played more simply because you can't realistically rehearse that many songs.



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