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    3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    For, more quality LB than DL



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    Dude, it's Christmas morning. Merry Christmas.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    I honestly have no idea what the OP is even saying, so I'll second the motion. Merry Christmas!



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    Third.
    Merry Christmas



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    He's asking if we should go to a 3-4 defense instead of a 4-3 because he feels we have better LB's than we do D-Lineman.

    The short answer is "no."



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    The short and long answers are no. You have to actually have a GOOD defensive line to run a 3-4. Your defensive tackle has to be actually able to hold his own, and our two tackles combined last year along with the ends couldn't do squat. A 3-4 would be a nightmare.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    reason for:
    if wally would be for it.
    reason against:
    if wally is against it.

    thread over



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    a 3-4 is not a defense that you can just decide to switch to on a whim. It requires some specific types of players, players that we just don't have. We don't have a 3-4 nose tackle, we don't have 3-4 defensive ends, and we don't have 3-4 linebackers. It's easy to swap between a 3-4 and 4-3 if you're playing Madden, but in real life it's doesn't work that way.


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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    No. You need a DT like Butch Wilfork of the Pats. We don't have one.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    No. You need a DT like Butch Wilfork of the Pats. We don't have one.
    I think Rump and perhaps McDonough could be capable but in a 3-4 set we would need guys like Nelson and Lattimer to be OLB and we would need bigger DEs. We don't have that personnel.


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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    The op logic is flawed. Obviously doesn't understand the 3-4. We would actually need more DL right now since the OLB's are 99% of the time DE's in the 4-3 defense. Also the DL is far and away the most important part, especially the NT. We don't have a NT.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    Nope, you don't just switch to the 3-4 overnight, if you want to run it, you have to get a DC that specializes in it, and the correct personnel. This isn't NCAA '11.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    The op logic is flawed. Obviously doesn't understand the 3-4. We would actually need more DL right now since the OLB's are 99% of the time DE's in the 4-3 defense. Also the DL is far and away the most important part, especially the NT. We don't have a NT.
    I hate when people say "this", but this. The Packers drafted BJ Raji, a nose tackle, in the first round of the draft when they were switching to the 3-4 because the NT is the most important position in the 3-4. They need to occupy 2 or 3 blockers on the OL so the other players on defense can make plays.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    i think ppl like to think of it as putting your best players on the field. but it doesn't just work that way. you gotta work with what you have. the "system" or the way we line up isnt the problem.



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    Re: 3-4 def nxt yr, reasons for or agnst.

    I do think McDounough would be a real good DE, and Rump could hold his own. Lattimer would be a good OLB and obviously Knott and Klien at ILB. But there's still some holes and not enough depth.



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