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    Recruiting rankings

    This is what Scout has for their recruiting rankings of ISU. This is very early and means nothing since there is plenty of time for more kids to committ to schools; this is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

    This being said, as of now they have ISU's recruiting class ranked 71st so far. This is ahead of some notable schools like UConn (75), Miami (83), and Colorado (88). I think this is about where you would expect ISU to be, though they still have plenty of time to move up the list a little. Here's the link if interested

    Scout.com: Football Recruiting



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    doesnt mean much especially since they are about 4 recruits behind on our class.



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    we are always going to be ranked that low. we need good coaches to coach these 2 and 3 star prospects into 4 star talents. i THINK we have that in place right now. the key will be keeping the staff together for 5 years or more so we can get depth where or "coached up players" are upper classmen, giving the staff the opportunity to coach up the freshmen to replace outgoing seniors. we are not even close to being there yet, but i honestly feel we are going in the right direction for the first time in 10 years.



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU BET View Post
    we are always going to be ranked that low. we need good coaches to coach these 2 and 3 star prospects into 4 star talents. i THINK we have that in place right now. the key will be keeping the staff together for 5 years or more so we can get depth where or "coached up players" are upper classmen, giving the staff the opportunity to coach up the freshmen to replace outgoing seniors. we are not even close to being there yet, but i honestly feel we are going in the right direction for the first time in 10 years.
    Agreed. We need to get to the point where we have 20 seniors graduating, and we fill almost all of those spots with RS Jrs and Srs instead of FR and SO.



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU BET View Post
    we are always going to be ranked that low. we need good coaches to coach these 2 and 3 star prospects into 4 star talents. i THINK we have that in place right now. the key will be keeping the staff together for 5 years or more so we can get depth where or "coached up players" are upper classmen, giving the staff the opportunity to coach up the freshmen to replace outgoing seniors. we are not even close to being there yet, but i honestly feel we are going in the right direction for the first time in 10 years.
    We can have better classes and we will need them. IMO- ideally we sign a full class of 3 star guys. That would generally put us in the 35-50 range. That will give us the needed talent to coach up. That is how schools like TCU, iowa, Kansas(when they got good), Missouri, Utah, etc all built their programs into successful programs.

    No matter what, you need talent to win consitently and as Rhoads has said they need to recruit over what is already in place. That means you try to recruit over guys like Shontrelle Johnson.


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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    We can have better classes and we will need them. IMO- ideally we sign a full class of 3 star guys. That would generally put us in the 35-50 range. That will give us the needed talent to coach up. That is how schools like TCU, iowa, Kansas(when they got good), Missouri, Utah, etc all built their programs into successful programs.

    No matter what, you need talent to win consitently and as Rhoads has said they need to recruit over what is already in place. That means you try to recruit over guys like Shontrelle Johnson.
    oh no doubt about it, i agree 100%. but too many on here see kids with 2 and 3 star rankings and automatically assume that's it-they won't be developed, or whatever. that's not the case-a good coach takes 2 and 3 star guys and develops them into all big 12 caliber guys.

    some of them are ranked low for reasons other then skill-injury, grades, etc. we need to hit on guys like that, too.



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    I agree that we need to get more 3 star guys, but we also need to keep finding guys like Franklin and KO who were under the radar and turned out to be great finds



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    CPR will have to find gems and develop them, but you can't rely only on that strategy to get us over the .500 caliber. To get our program on the same level as Iowa, Mizzou, Okie St, etc we will need to upgrade our recruiting.

    People act like Iowa only recruits 2-stars and develops them into NFL players. Yes, it has happened, but they get plenty of 3/4 stars mixed in that also develop into NFL players and good college contributors. Also, it's not as if every other coach/team doesn't try to find hidden talent and/or develop players.

    We need to continue to develop to be sure, but we also need to recruit better players. We'll never be more than a .500 average team if we can only rely on "superior coaching and development" and not better talent.



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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    CPR will have to find gems and develop them, but you can't rely only on that strategy to get us over the .500 caliber. To get our program on the same level as Iowa, Mizzou, Okie St, etc we will need to upgrade our recruiting.

    People act like Iowa only recruits 2-stars and develops them into NFL players. Yes, it has happened, but they get plenty of 3/4 stars mixed in that also develop into NFL players and good college contributors. Also, it's not as if every other coach/team doesn't try to find hidden talent and/or develop players.

    We need to continue to develop to be sure, but we also need to recruit better players. We'll never be more than a .500 average team if we can only rely on "superior coaching and development" and not better talent.
    How do you think Iowa got started. Go take a look at Kirks first few classes. Not spectacular.


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    Re: Recruiting rankings

    ISU has traditionally not recruited well according to any of the star ranking systems over the last 10 years. Living off the diamonds in the rough is fine, but it would be nice to have a few big breaks and get a few athletes ISU "shouldn't" get.


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