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    I dont know if anyone else around here looks at scout.com, but I noticed that we have a few extra 3 star recruits than we did a few weeks ago. Funny thing is though they were guys who had already committed to us a while ago; RB Rob Standard and TE Ernst Brun. Anyone know why these guys have all of sudden become 3 star recruits? Maybe this is a dumb question and happens all the time with scout but I'm just curious as to why this is?



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    Re: Scout

    The universe has a limited number of stars. When the Sooners and others sveltes grab as many stars as they can, the rest of the schools are then allotted their share. We happened to pick up some of those spare stars that Bob Stoops did not claim. Usually we get a few spare stars at the end of recruiting season just to be nice to us.


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    Well, their scouting report on Brun wasn't all that great--but considering the one they did on Oni Omoule, I'm more than a bit surprised he didn't get three stars as well.




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    I go to RIvals for that stuff. They seem to get more guys evaluated quicker.


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    Re: Scout

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    I go to RIvals for that stuff. They seem to get more guys evaluated quicker.
    Yeah, sometimes Scout doesn't even have all of the known verbal commits updated or even have them with a profile.

    Both Scout and Rivals reevealuate players or take their time evaluating a player so stars will fluctuate. We've had plenty of guys go from 0 to 2 or 3 stars.



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    Re: Scout

    For the record I just found out the Jevohn Miller has been nominated for the Reggie Cleveland hall of fame. I was unaware of this until today.


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    They either just ranked them for the first time, or they re-evaluated them and re-ranked them.



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    Re: Scout

    ANyone who is evaluated get's a rating of some sort in case some don't know. 1 star rankings are not good at all IMO. I think if Jevohn was fully evauated, he would be a three. probably a low 3 but a 3 nontheless. You can talk about them not mattering if you want but in honestly they are correct far more often than they are wrong.


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    Re: Scout

    i think scout ratings are better than the rivals ratings. i am somewhat disapointed,that rivls is slower than scout in reporting new commits.greg ohlsen is doing a good job at scout.


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    Re: Scout

    ESPN.com's recruiting section has much more detailed evaluations on recruits than either Rivals or Scout. ESPN also doesn't let who has offered a recruit bias their ratings as much. I like that ESPN provides a more nuanced number rating for each recruit alongside the traditional star ratings that are such a big part of recruits getting overhyped.

    If you're looking for news on who a recruit is considering, though, Rivals is the best source.



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    Re: Scout

    Quote Originally Posted by hippiehawk View Post
    ESPN.com's recruiting section has much more detailed evaluations on recruits than either Rivals or Scout. ESPN also doesn't let who has offered a recruit bias their ratings as much. I like that ESPN provides a more nuanced number rating for each recruit alongside the traditional star ratings that are such a big part of recruits getting overhyped.

    If you're looking for news on who a recruit is considering, though, Rivals is the best source.
    My problem with ESPN is their final ranking. You can read glowing reports on a recruit, and then they will get a low 70 ranking. Go check out Justin Blackmon's evaluation. I wanted to see how bad ESPN whiffed on him. They ranked him a low 3 star(74), but the review was glowing. The problem with ESPN is that Tom Luginbill is the final vetter of all the reviews, and he seems to eventually assign the rating. One of my friends evaluates prospects on the side, and he said the guy is not easy to work with.



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    Re: Scout

    Rivals is far and away the best recruiting service. Scout and ESPN are vastly inferior.



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    Re: Scout

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    My problem with ESPN is their final ranking. You can read glowing reports on a recruit, and then they will get a low 70 ranking. Go check out Justin Blackmon's evaluation. I wanted to see how bad ESPN whiffed on him. They ranked him a low 3 star(74), but the review was glowing. The problem with ESPN is that Tom Luginbill is the final vetter of all the reviews, and he seems to eventually assign the rating. One of my friends evaluates prospects on the side, and he said the guy is not easy to work with.
    Very interesting post. Still, in-depth evaluations with mismatched ratings are better than virtually no evaluations at all (Rivals) or a very brief list of a recruit's strengths and weaknesses (Scout).



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    rivals and scout maybe suck. why do they keep showing the same ole picture of sam richardson.can't someone there change their there recruiting pictures. lil sam is there every day of the season on their little sports capsules at the lower right hand corner of scout. old ohly does beat itty bitty clark many times on recruiting news. THE CYCLONE FANATIC BEATS BOTH RIVALS AND SCOUT!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    My problem with ESPN is their final ranking. You can read glowing reports on a recruit, and then they will get a low 70 ranking. Go check out Justin Blackmon's evaluation. I wanted to see how bad ESPN whiffed on him. They ranked him a low 3 star(74), but the review was glowing. The problem with ESPN is that Tom Luginbill is the final vetter of all the reviews, and he seems to eventually assign the rating. One of my friends evaluates prospects on the side, and he said the guy is not easy to work with.
    ESPN messes up a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by hippiehawk View Post
    ESPN.com's recruiting section has much more detailed evaluations on recruits than either Rivals or Scout. ESPN also doesn't let who has offered a recruit bias their ratings as much. I like that ESPN provides a more nuanced number rating for each recruit alongside the traditional star ratings that are such a big part of recruits getting overhyped.

    If you're looking for news on who a recruit is considering, though, Rivals is the best source.
    ESPN does give you quite the rundown but their ratings are not consistent withe the evals giving their evals very little credibility IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by xboxfever View Post
    Rivals is far and away the best recruiting service. Scout and ESPN are vastly inferior.
    Yes.

    There was a piece of research done, I think at mgoblog.com and they basically took rankings for a period of time awhile back so that those players would have graduated and then through some metric graded out each service in terms of hindsight accuracy. I believe Rivals was the best followed by scout. ESPN was last but I do use their stuff to find certain things to look for in a video. All to often I find something they said to look to be untrue. I just don't know they hold a lot of water their. I do wish Scout would be less cumbersome and more user friendly. I think they may have the best coverage and personnel there but the site just kind of sucks. I use the offers only for who has certainly on Rivals. If they say there's and offer, there's a 99% chance they do. If it says they don't have one from a school, that means nothing to me.


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