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    Welfare outrage

    All farmers, dead or alive, need to be taken off the dole

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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Just an absolutely crazy guess, but I'm thinking that won't be the most popular stance. With that said, I have to agree for the most part. I am sure there are some circumstances where it is justifiable, but I'm not aware of those.



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    The US needs to take a hard line on farm subsidies. They give out too much tax payer money to these massive farms. I am in favor of a 20% cut on ALL federal programs, no exceptions.


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    The related article from the Washington Post: LINK


    FEE post (includes links to San Francisco Chronicle article, “Pelosi Takes Heat for Stand on Farm Bill,” and article by George Mason University economist Russell Roberts, “What Do Farmers Want from Me?”):
    Farm-Subsidy Bill Goes to Full House | News & Commentary | The Foundation for Economic Education: In Brief

    University of San Diego economist James D. Hamilton on ethanol:
    Econbrowser: Ethanol and food price volatility


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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    The US needs to take a hard line on farm subsidies. They give out too much tax payer money to these massive farms. I am in favor of a 20% cut on ALL federal programs, no exceptions.
    Ok, so it's decided. Let's make it happen!



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    That is a huge problem with the current USDA program. The bigger the farm, the larger the "help" check. Fewer family farms can survive every year because the "rich get richer"! I hope the new farm bill, which takes effect in 2009 I think, addresses these problems...



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Quote Originally Posted by jdolson View Post
    That is a huge problem with the current USDA program. The bigger the farm, the larger the "help" check. Fewer family farms can survive every year because the "rich get richer"! I hope the new farm bill, which takes effect in 2009 I think, addresses these problems...
    With the high grain prices right now, the subsidies are way down.



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    I agree clone52, the current grain prices are above the posted county rates for LDP payments, which is a great thing. But IMHO the ethanol boom will be relatively short lived and we will be facing the same situation of unprofitable prices for commodities. Maybe the current system of paying farmers for the amount they produce could be changed to a value based compensation or land stewardship? Just some thoughts...



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.
    Here here, that really pisses me off too. All trucks should be taxed based on weight unless you can show they are being used as part of a business.


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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.
    Actually, I think he pays a whopping $65 unless it's changed from my days on the farm nearly a decade ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Actually, I think he pays a whopping $65 unless it's changed from my days on the farm nearly a decade ago.
    Higher than I thought but it should be at least $300 for his "farm vehicle".



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    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Higher than I thought but it should be at least $300 for his "farm vehicle".
    Closer to $400 for one of these trucks. My wifes minivan is $375.


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    Re: Welfare outrage

    I don't disagree with you - yet that's not his fault at all. He's actually using the situation to his advantage - can't fault him for that.

    I'm considering getting a truck in the spring. I won't complain one bit about a $65/year registration fee should I go that route.



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    Re: Welfare outrage

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Closer to $400 for one of these trucks. My wifes minivan is $375.
    That's because it's a Honda!!!


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