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    If we win out

    What bowl would we get? NYC? Insight? Holiday?



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    Re: If we win out

    If we win out, Nebraska loses out, and Kansas State loses one of its last two conference games then we will go to the Fiesta Bowl.

    Go Cyclones!



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    Re: If we win out

    All of them. We will be in all of them.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
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    Re: If we win out

    Actually hoping for somewhere in the Southwest. I haven't been able to go to a bowl game since 2002 and really want to go to one!



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    Re: If we win out

    umm.. it would also depend on how all the other teams do. It also would depend on what Bowls want to invite us.



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    Re: If we win out

    Nebraska has to lose to Kansas in Lincoln.
    (like that'll happen)



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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyclone Brian View Post
    Nebraska has to lose to Kansas in Lincoln.
    (like that'll happen)
    But oh, if it did............ Would they cheer Turner Gill?


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    Re: If we win out

    I would love a shot at the Holliday, but my guess would be Texas or Pinstripe.



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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I would love a shot at the Holliday, but my guess would be Texas or Pinstripe.
    We probably have a better chance going to the Holiday than the Texas Bowl. I think every Texas bowl picks a Texas team and ISU and KSU will go to the Pinstripe and Holiday.



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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    But oh, if it did............ Would they cheer Turner Gill?
    Maybe not, but the rest of the Big XII would.


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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    Maybe not, but the rest of the Big XII would.
    So true. So true.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by Psyclone Brian View Post
    Nebraska has to lose to Kansas in Lincoln.
    (like that'll happen)
    They probably said that about a little game there last year too. But yeah, it ain't happenin.


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    Re: If we win out

    If we win out, and the other games go as expected, we'd probably be looking at the Pinstripe bowl at best.

    (Worst case overall/Best case overall) [Worst case conf/Best case conf]
    Nebraska (8-4/11-1) [4-4/7-1]
    Oklahoma State (8-4/11-1) [4-4/7-1]
    Oklahoma (7-5/10-2) [3-5/6-2]
    Missouri (7-5/10-2) [3-5/6-2]
    Baylor (7-5/9-3) [4-4/6-2]
    TAMU (6-6/9-3) [3-5/6-2]
    Kansas State (6-6/9-3) [3-5/5-3]
    Texas Tech (5-7/8-4) [4-4/3-5]
    Iowa State (7-5) [5-3]

    Comparing best case ISU finish to worst case finishes for other teams:

    Nebraska, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma still obviously will get picked before us. I also think a 7-5 Baylor team gets picked before a 7-5 ISU team, as its been so long since they were in a bowl, and any bowl game with them is likely to be an entertaining shootout.

    If Missouri loses out, I think we get picked ahead of them. Otherwise, they get picked ahead of us. Not very likely, since they finish with Kansas, but anything can happen in rivalry games.

    If TAMU loses out (6-6/3-5), I think we get picked ahead of them. With remaining games @Baylor, Nebraska, and @Texas, its not out of the question, but I think they'll win at least one of those. If they win 1 of 3, we may get picked ahead of them, but I doubt it.

    KSU would need to win both of their remaining games to match our conference record, and would end up with two more overall wins (assuming they beat North Texas) than us. If they win one of two to end up 8-4/4-4, I think it would be even odds whether they get picked first or we do.

    As long as we beat Colorado, I think we get picked ahead of Texas Tech.

    Best case scenario, TAMU loses out, and either Missouri loses out, or KSU loses to @Missouri and @Colorado.

    Then the selections would be something like:

    BCS - Nebraska
    Cotton - Oklahoma State
    Alamo - Oklahoma
    Insight - Baylor
    Holiday - Missouri or KSU
    Texas - ISU
    Pinstripe - Missouri or KSU
    TicketCity - TAMU
    At Large - Texas Tech


    If Missouri loses out, and KSU beats Missouri and loses the rest to finish 7-5/4-4, we MAYBE could get picked by the Holiday Bowl, but that would require KSU losing to North Texas, which is not going to happen.



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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by JUKEBOX View Post
    We probably have a better chance going to the Holiday than the Texas Bowl. I think every Texas bowl picks a Texas team and ISU and KSU will go to the Pinstripe and Holiday.
    I don't agree with the bolded part. I remember Deace talking about this last year, and I think he had a good point. These bowls are looking to maximize revenue, and the best way to do that is to select a team whose fans will need to travel to your site and stay for multiple days. They don't want a team who's fans will drive up for the game and leave the same day. So I think the Texas Bowl is unlikely to pick either Baylor or TAMU.

    Also, the order of selection comes in to play. By the time the Texas Bowl comes around, I think at best the only Texas teams available would be TAMU and Texas Tech. I really don't think Tech would get picked ahead of us. TAMU maybe, but as I said before don't think the Texas Bowl would want them.



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    Re: If we win out

    Quote Originally Posted by ahaselhu View Post
    I don't agree with the bolded part. I remember Deace talking about this last year, and I think he had a good point. These bowls are looking to maximize revenue, and the best way to do that is to select a team whose fans will need to travel to your site and stay for multiple days. They don't want a team who's fans will drive up for the game and leave the same day. So I think the Texas Bowl is unlikely to pick either Baylor or TAMU.

    Also, the order of selection comes in to play. By the time the Texas Bowl comes around, I think at best the only Texas teams available would be TAMU and Texas Tech. I really don't think Tech would get picked ahead of us. TAMU maybe, but as I said before don't think the Texas Bowl would want them.
    I completely disagree and the fact that this idea came from Deace just shows how ridiculous it is. You are right that a bowl wants to maximize it's profits but a bowl doesn't make an extra penny if people going to the bowl stay in hotels or eat at restaurants. They make money from 1 thing, ticket sales. They want the most butts in seats and for the Texas bowls they are virtually gauranteed more ticket sales by picking a texas team over Iowa State.

    If you want ISU in a bowl game in the state of Texas then your best bet is to root for A&M to win out and beat Nebby in the Big12 conference championship game to get to a BCS bowl. That leaves only 2 Texas teams (BU and TTU) for the Texas bowls and it likely leaves one of them open for ISU.



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