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    The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Hopefully Basketball will as well, or wait they already did.

    SI.com - NCAA Football - Iowa's recruiting effort hurt by rise of ND and Illinois - Friday July 13, 2007 5:21PM

    Maybe the follow up article will be about the rise of Chizek recruiting.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    They had a top 25 class according to Rivals after two crappy seasons in a row on the field. I agree with most of the article, but they don't need to ring the panic button in IC quite yet.



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by Drive4cy View Post
    They had a top 25 class according to Rivals after two crappy seasons in a row on the field. I agree with most of the article, but they don't need to ring the panic button in IC quite yet.
    Agreed. Their best season in the past 10 years (2002) had barely any high rated players on the team. But, their days of getting a top 10 recruiting class are over. With Zook, Weis, Brewster, Chizik, and Michigan (Carr could be done after this year) recruiting got a lot harder in the midwest

    Oh yeah and I forgot to add Callahan



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    And Nebraska could lose 6-6 Elkhorn's Trevor Robinson to back East.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    I don't understand why Callahan is mentioned in this discussion. Nebraska is good but not great and that, in part, is thanks to Callahan. He does seem to draw in talent and has a lot of 4 and 5 star talent that never seem to be THE superstars on the field.

    Look at his top five class of a couple of years ago. Over a quarter of that class is gone. Either they dropped out, quit, or transferred. A lot of people will say that now these are "his players" - but they don't mention that a lot of these players are JUCOs and now one year wonders, like Keller.

    As an ISU fan, the best thing Callahan has ever done was get Pelini out of the Big 12.



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    I wouldn't worry too much about Ron Zook.



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Iowa State had more top commitments from Illinois than the Hawkeyes did. Ouch.
    That is a double edged sword.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Yeah I went ouch when I read that.........



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    The rize of Rutgers does not help the bubble bees either. New Jersey was always good for a couple of good ones.

    With top 25 recruiting classes, how can "one of the best coaches in the country" be almost .500 in his last two seasons? Especially with their schedule.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Didn't last year's recruiting class at Iowa have 5 or 6 four-star recruits and a bunch of three-stars? Personally, I don't think they're hurting. And it wouldn't surpise me to see this year's team win 9 or 10 games, meaning next year's class could be even better. I respect the hell out of Kirk Ferentz, and since his NFL stock has dropped considerably because of what has happened the last two years, Iowa football could easily get back to where it was three years ago.



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CTTB78 View Post
    The rize of Rutgers does not help the bubble bees either. New Jersey was always good for a couple of good ones.

    With top 25 recruiting classes, how can "one of the best coaches in the country" be almost .500 in his last two seasons? Especially with their schedule.
    Especially with Iowa's schedule? Playing the #1, #2, and #5 teams in the nation, that ended the season with a combined record of 34-4, and playing in the BigTen is hardly an "easy schedule."

    Given, a .500 record is a little unacceptable, but I wouldn't call the schedule easy.

    And this article is BS IMO. The Hawks haven't been about the numbers in recruiting. Greenway, Considine, Gallery, and others were un-rated. The top 10 class of two years ago has yet to prove anything, so in all honesty, if success comes with "diamonds in the rough", I'd rather see players being recruited rather than numbers.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by Drive4cy View Post
    I agree with most of the article, but they don't need to ring the panic button in IC quite yet.
    They already did ring it in basketball, but they rang it WAY too late...maybe a salvage job can be done? who knows...but yeah, EIU FB recruiting ability is falling...slowly, but i don't think they need to worry about firing ferentz or anything like that...plus they'll get a good record this year due to the easy schedule, they won't need all 4 stars to do it, but they just won't be competing with mich, ohio st., or wisc for awhile.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyclone4 View Post
    They already did ring it in basketball, but they rang it WAY too late...maybe a salvage job can be done? who knows...but yeah, EIU FB recruiting ability is falling...slowly, but i don't think they need to worry about firing ferentz or anything like that...plus they'll get a good record this year due to the easy schedule, they won't need all 4 stars to do it, but they just won't be competing with mich, ohio st., or wisc for awhile.
    Falling slowly? Not really. Iowa's recruiting last year included 6 or 7 (depending on which site) 4 star recruits, and it went down to the wire with several 5 star. The year before that was a top 10 class, and the year before that was another top 25 class. This year's class will most likely be in the top 25 AGAIN.

    And in basketball - there was no "need" for a panic button. Iowa was/is in the same boat as ISU when it comes to basketball recruiting. Lick has been doing a phenomenal job on the recruiting trail for only being on the job for 3 months. He's signed 2 players, and has LOADS of top players interested in the program.

    Not something Iowa saw under Alford. But I don't hink any panic button needs to be hit.


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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Iowa was/is in the same boat as ISU when it comes to basketball recruiting.
    No, there not.

    When EICC pulls in a class like ISU's 07 class, then maybe but until that happens EICC has a long way to go in bball recruiting. EICC hasn't even been able to recruit the state of Iowa. Vette and Gibbs are both going else where. And don't make excuses because lick had plenty of chances to get in on both of these guys. Sure he got Gattens but he was going to Iowa no matter what becasue he grew up there. That really doesn't count.

    I'm not sold that Lick can recruit at all.



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    Re: The Fall of EIU Football Recruiting

    Seems to me that somebody on this thread needs to go back to his black and gold sisters out east message boards so he will have plenty of company being blind to the truth and they can pump up one another with their failed aspirations of multiple Big 11 BCS championship in every year and not corrupt our board.



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