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    BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    A friend of mine who works on the ESPN College Gameday website (also an ISU grad) spent part of his afternoon looking this up. It's the six BCS computer rankings and where they have Iowa State. It's interesting - and surprising - to see how we rank in the unbiased computer polls.

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    Iowa State's week 9 ranking by average of the six computer polls that are used in the BCS standings.

    Iowa State received zero votes in the two human polls that are used in the BCS standings.


    Computer rankings:
    • Kenneth Massey - 25 - Massey Ratings - CF
    • Jeff Sagarin - 27 - USATODAY.com (rankings in red)

    • Dr. Peter Wolfe - 32 - 2010 College Football
    • Anderson & Hester - 33 - AndersonSports: The Jeff Anderson & Chris Hester College Football Computer Rankings - Part of the BCS Rankings
    • Richard Billingsley - 35 - http://ow.ly/32Mwz
    • Colley Matrix - 39 - Colley's Bias Free College Football Rankings[FONT='lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif]
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    Where these sites came from: http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4765872


    Human rankings:
    Harris Poll - ISU: Unranked & Zero votes (16 teams outside top-25 receive votes)
    2010 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 10 - ESPN
    USA Today coaches poll - ISU: Unranked & Zero votes (11 teams outside top-25 receive votes)
    2010 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 10 - ESPN


    Last edited by Cubsfan; 11-01-2010 at 09:11 PM. Reason: I apologize for the different fonts, I copied and pasted from an email.

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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cubsfan View Post
    A friend of mine who works on the ESPN College Gameday website (also an ISU grad) spent part of his afternoon looking this up. It's the six BCS computer rankings and where they have Iowa State. It's interesting - and surprising - to see how we rank in the unbiased computer polls.

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    Iowa State's week 9 ranking by average of the six computer polls that are used in the BCS standings.

    Iowa State received zero votes in the two human polls that are used in the BCS standings.


    Computer rankings:
    Check out #62 in the Massey ratings. Augustana (South Dakota), right ahead of Georgia.

    In other news, our schedule is brutal.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    You should just change the title to 'Human voters are biased'.


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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Thats really intersting thanks for sharing, i don't think we should reveive any votes from the human polls we don't have any quality wins. Now lets go beat Nebraska and change that.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by mitchforcy View Post
    Thats really intersting thanks for sharing, i don't think we should reveive any votes from the human polls we don't have any quality wins. Now lets go beat Nebraska and change that.
    Winning at Texas for the first time ever isn't quality? Yeah, they're having a down year, but they still have the best team money can buy.


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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    Winning at Texas for the first time ever isn't quality? Yeah, they're having a down year, but they still have the best team money can buy.
    Almost any other year it would have been but this year i don't think it is. They also got destroyed at home by UCLA who is terrible this year, but thats just my opinion.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    You should just change the title to 'Human voters are biased'.
    Those two losses to Oklahoma and Utah means that even if we beat Nebraska this weekend we probably won't receive any votes. The BCS computers don't get to take margin of victory into account, so that helps us a lot.

    We'd have to win out to receive votes, and then win the Big XII title game to be ranked.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    That KSU game really gets me more upset as the year goes on. if we beat them we'd be 6-3. even higher in the computers and i would assume getting some votes from the pollsters. and already be bowl bound.

    But then again, Im still grumpy about the close losses last year to KSU and KU, we could of been 9-4!



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Those two losses to Oklahoma and Utah means that even if we beat Nebraska this weekend we probably won't receive any votes. The BCS computers don't get to take margin of victory into account, so that helps us a lot.

    We'd have to win out to receive votes, and then win the Big XII title game to be ranked.
    So basically, we would have to make a BCS bowl to get ranked at all? Even though we lost to Utah, a team that if they win saturday, has a legit chance of being in the running for the title game, and OU, who is just really good and lost an away game to an angry crowd of missourians? I'm not gonna make up an excuse for the loss to Iowa, that was just ugly, but maybe this means the voters really are biased? Maybe the Big XII is just really tough to win in? Maybe all the teams of the Big XII are really good this year?


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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Those two losses to Oklahoma and Utah means that even if we beat Nebraska this weekend we probably won't receive any votes. The BCS computers don't get to take margin of victory into account, so that helps us a lot.

    We'd have to win out to receive votes, and then win the Big XII title game to be ranked.
    I thought some did depends on the programing? I could be wrong.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    I think that Iowa State is just on the cusp of receiving votes in the human polls, if we had one more win, we'd probably have gotten votes. Win against Nebraska and we'll probably get a handful, maybe enough to get us to 25. If we lose against Nebraska, we won't be ranked this year.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSTI View Post
    I think that Iowa State is just on the cusp of receiving votes in the human polls, if we had one more win, we'd probably have gotten votes. Win against Nebraska and we'll probably get a handful, maybe enough to get us to 25. If we lose against Nebraska, we won't be ranked this year.
    There currently aren't any four loss teams receiving votes.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    So basically, we would have to make a BCS bowl to get ranked at all?
    I think so. We might get ranked if we win all of our next three, but I definitely do not think we would be ranked in the human polls with a win on Saturday.


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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    It's really hard to say where we deserve to be in my mind. The Utah and Oklahoma losses were very bad but vs. good teams. The Texas win is impressive, but not in the same way it would be most years. It's just interesting to see how the computers came out though.

    If we'd beat Nebraska, we are definitely a top 30 team in my opinion.



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    Re: BCS computers like Iowa State (relatively speaking)

    humans can factor in point margins in losses. we are pretty sad on that aspect. all of our losses are pretty brutal.


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