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    Spread Offense

    One thing that frustrates me is that with ISU's version of the spread offense we basically have one running play which we run 90% of the time - QB/RB option at the point of the snap.

    With a little over 6 minutes left in the game, ISU didn't make a first down after A-Rob ripped of a 7 yard run on first down. Part of the problem there was Woodie running wide on 2nd down instead of up the middle.

    ISU has tinkered with the pistol this year, but it still targets the same holes as the normal QB zone read. I would love to see Herman get a little more variety into our running game. Why not use Reynolds or Lenz in motion and do an inside handoff? Last night I saw Mizzou go with an empty backfield and have a WR come in motion behind the QB and got a great runnning start toward an inside hole. I'm sure there's a variation when they run an outside run. I didn't see the Oregon game on Thursday night, but saw an earlier game where their variety of running plays out of the spread was awesome to watch.



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    Re: Spread Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by isucy86 View Post
    One thing that frustrates me is that with ISU's version of the spread offense we basically have one running play which we run 90% of the time - QB/RB option at the point of the snap.

    With a little over 6 minutes left in the game, ISU didn't make a first down after A-Rob ripped of a 7 yard run on first down. Part of the problem there was Woodie running wide on 2nd down instead of up the middle.

    ISU has tinkered with the pistol this year, but it still targets the same holes as the normal QB zone read. I would love to see Herman get a little more variety into our running game. Why not use Reynolds or Lenz in motion and do an inside handoff? Last night I saw Mizzou go with an empty backfield and have a WR come in motion behind the QB and got a great runnning start toward an inside hole. I'm sure there's a variation when they run an outside run. I didn't see the Oregon game on Thursday night, but saw an earlier game where their variety of running plays out of the spread was awesome to watch.
    I'd like to see Woody in the H-Back position when we motion him into a lead back
    and SJ running some jet and fake jet to stretch the D to make the zone read
    more effective.



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    Re: Spread Offense

    The zone read is our base play. It's what we'll run most of the time when we run the ball, and other plays should work off of the zone read action based on what we see from the defense. It's no different than being a Power I team and running the ISO 40% of the time.

    The one thing I'd like to see that emulates Oregon's offense is reading the DT rather than the DE all the time. It confuses the defensive reads when looking for the "normal" zone read and slows down their reaction a bit. And it's a subtle change that doesn't require motion, personnel changes, etc that might tip the defense off.


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    Re: Spread Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by isucy86 View Post
    One thing that frustrates me is that with ISU's version of the spread offense we basically have one running play which we run 90% of the time - QB/RB option at the point of the snap.

    With a little over 6 minutes left in the game, ISU didn't make a first down after A-Rob ripped of a 7 yard run on first down. Part of the problem there was Woodie running wide on 2nd down instead of up the middle.

    ISU has tinkered with the pistol this year, but it still targets the same holes as the normal QB zone read. I would love to see Herman get a little more variety into our running game. Why not use Reynolds or Lenz in motion and do an inside handoff? Last night I saw Mizzou go with an empty backfield and have a WR come in motion behind the QB and got a great runnning start toward an inside hole. I'm sure there's a variation when they run an outside run. I didn't see the Oregon game on Thursday night, but saw an earlier game where their variety of running plays out of the spread was awesome to watch.
    Woody bouncing off his own blocker and falling down on second down was a low point in the game. The game was extended when we did not get the first down.


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    Re: Spread Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by besserheimerphat View Post
    The zone read is our base play. It's what we'll run most of the time when we run the ball, and other plays should work off of the zone read action based on what we see from the defense. It's no different than being a Power I team and running the ISO 40% of the time.

    The one thing I'd like to see that emulates Oregon's offense is reading the DT rather than the DE all the time. It confuses the defensive reads when looking for the "normal" zone read and slows down their reaction a bit. And it's a subtle change that doesn't require motion, personnel changes, etc that might tip the defense off.
    Exactly, off the zone read back field action we run RB traps and Q-traps aswell as an occasional Q-iso.



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    Re: Spread Offense

    Zone read works MUCH better when AA is running the ball too. Ever since the original injury to the shoulder, he has not been running. Love that yesterday they let him run - it drastically opened up the running game which opened p the passing game.



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    Re: Spread Offense

    I think we got a glimpse of what this offense can do yesterday. It's still not what Herman wants because we don't have the right athletes at the right positions yet, but it was a positive step. The thing I was happy to see was that we were using the no huddle the way it should be used. On ARob's run that SHOULD have been a touchdown, the whole reason that worked was because we snapped the ball quick. We were at the line, had the play and Texas was slow in setting up, so we snapped the ball and caught them off-guard. THAT'S a major purpose of the no huddle offense.



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