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    Concussions and Helmets

    I was reading on another message board.. And they were discussing concussions in the NFL. One of them said that american football players shouldn't wear helmets anymore. He said rugby players don't wear helmets and their concussion rates are much lower than that of the NFL. I said that pads are worn to play the game at full speed... not really realistic in rugby.

    I thought about it for awhile. Is that a good idea? Is it true that the only way to get football players to stop tackling with their head is to take away their helmet? Or maybe they should mandate mouth guards... How much do mouth guards really work/help?

    Just some things to consider. Im interested to hear your guys' thoughts.



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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I was reading on another message board.. And they were discussing concussions in the NFL. One of them said that american football players shouldn't wear helmets anymore. He said rugby players don't wear helmets and their concussion rates are much lower than that of the NFL. I said that pads are worn to play the game at full speed... not really realistic in rugby.

    I thought about it for awhile. Is that a good idea? Is it true that the only way to get football players to stop tackling with their head is to take away their helmet? Or maybe they should mandate mouth guards... How much do mouth guards really work/help?

    Just some things to consider. Im interested to hear your guys' thoughts.

    I say take away the face mask. Give them goggles if you want to protect their eyes, but I can guarantee you that a lot of the defensive players would change their styles if they knew that they could take a knee to the face.



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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    I agree somewhat, but you can't just compare the two games directly as there are many more differences than the equipment. In my opinion, some rugby rules (specifically: barring blocking for a ball carrier, how you are allowed to tackle a ball carrier and how you engage in the scrum or ruck) all contribute to less violent and/or less dangerous collisions on the rugby pitch. That being said, it is still not a game for the weak of heart! Only real men (or women) should play.


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    I think it would be a great money maker if they did sell ice cream sundaes in small plastic helmets. They could use the current helmet, but also offer past styles as well. It would be fun to try to collect the whole set.

    Whoops. Sorry. I thought you said "concessions and helmets". My bad.


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I was reading on another message board.. And they were discussing concussions in the NFL. One of them said that american football players shouldn't wear helmets anymore. He said rugby players don't wear helmets and their concussion rates are much lower than that of the NFL. I said that pads are worn to play the game at full speed... not really realistic in rugby.
    I thought about it for awhile. Is that a good idea? Is it true that the only way to get football players to stop tackling with their head is to take away their helmet? Or maybe they should mandate mouth guards... How much do mouth guards really work/help?
    Just some things to consider. Im interested to hear your guys' thoughts.
    We've been having this discussion on one of the Longhorn boards. I also read an article a while back that said something to the effect that soccer has as many head injuries as football, however, I dont know if it is true.

    I agree... leather helmets with no face mask. LOL

    I think one thing that is over looked is the rules changes over the decades that support better offensive play (entertainment). I think some of the rules need to be rolled back and call the game equally for offense and defense. For instance, if a receiver keeps pushing off the DB and not only gets away with it but often the penalty goes against the DB, dont you know he is going to get payback when he gets the chance? I would.
    OTOH, you can take a players head off and nothing is called (which is ok if it is not illegal) but if you TOUCH - even accidentally - a QB's helmet it is an automatic infraction supported by the booth announcers, "well, you know... regardless of how insignificant, the rules are the rules."

    It is going to be interesting to see what infractions are going to be called this weekend. Who are they going to make an example of to show a they are clamping down on the situation. They ALWAYS overreact to stuff like this such as the ridiculous "QB in the grasp" rule. Personally, I want to blame it on the color pink.


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by tube1 View Post
    I think it would be a great money maker if they did sell ice cream sundaes in small plastic helmets. They could use the current helmet, but also offer past styles as well. It would be fun to try to collect the whole set.

    Whoops. Sorry. I thought you said "concessions and helmets". My bad.
    I like this idea. You should email it to Pollard.



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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    They were talking about this on the radio the other day and said that the % of concussions in the NFL was less then in college and high school. I'm not sure if that is true. But another thing to look at is why do so many helmets fall off now a days? Players seem to easiley slip their helmets on and off more so then before. It's like the old egg toss in physics the egg that is packed tighter is less likely to break then the on that has soft padding that allows it to move around.


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by flander1649 View Post
    They were talking about this on the radio the other day and said that the % of concussions in the NFL was less then in college and high school. I'm not sure if that is true. But another thing to look at is why do so many helmets fall off now a days? Players seem to easiley slip their helmets on and off more so then before. It's like the old egg toss in physics the egg that is packed tighter is less likely to break then the on that has soft padding that allows it to move around.
    Good point. Way back when I played, if the helmet didn't about rip your ears off when you were putting it on and taking it off they said you had one that didn't safely fit you.


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    I think we can all agree that the Pro-Cap Gladiator's time has come.
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    Look at that thing! You could bash your head against a brick wall and not feel a thing!


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    off topic, but did anyone see that rutger's player get paralyzed last week or two weeks ago? It was a DT or something... very scary

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-5cVFedTE&feature=related"]YouTube - Terrible This Is Why You Should Always Keep Your Head Up Big Hit Leaves Rutgers Football Player[/ame]


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    Re: Concussions and Helmets

    Brain changes found in football players thought to be concussion-free | ECN: Electronic Component News

    Great article on football head injuries.

    As someone who works with a HS team and helping manage concussions and return to play, this is a serious thing.

    One problem is I think in HS, kids are taking one week off from when their concussion was before returning to play. They really should be taking a minimum of 7 days following the resoultion of their symptoms before playing. When they do return, a very gradual return starting with gentle no contact cardio.

    I hope parents start taking concussions seriously.



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