Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 54
  1. #1
    Speechless
    Points: 391,300, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 85.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    57,102
    Points
    391,300
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 312
    Given: 258

    Stats Do Not Lie

    2010 Iowa St. Football Ranking Summary

    Iowa State Total Offense is #104
    Iowa State Scoring Offense is #85

    Iowa State Total Defense is #112
    Iowa State Scoring Defense is #104

    Turnover Margin (probably our best team stat) is #16

    Sacks - #112
    Sacks Allowed - #78
    Scoring Defense - #104
    Scoring Offense - #85

    Punting - Kirby Van der Kamp is #13

    Tackling - AJ Klein is #13, Jake Knot is #22, Sims is #44.

    Interceptions - Knott and Klein at #35

    Fieldgoals - Grant Mahoney is #55

    Passing Efficiency - AA at #93, team at #110
    Passing Efficiency Defense - #91



    We have been consistently lousy on both sides of ball although the defense looks worse. Most of that may be due to the offense going three and out. Kirby has had many chances to kick the ball as far as he can.


    Last edited by Wesley; 10-20-2010 at 08:09 AM.
    CFH HMagic bball season next year.
    Let my Fred's Four Horsemen ride: Georges, Hogue, Nader, and McKay.

  2. #2
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 42,873, Level: 63
    Level completed: 95%, Points required for next Level: 77
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    heitclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Malvern, IA
    Posts
    4,441
    Points
    42,873
    Level
    63
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 55
    Given: 138

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Weird you forgot strength of schedule.



  3. #3
    Speechless
    Points: 391,300, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 85.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    57,102
    Points
    391,300
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 312
    Given: 258

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Some people would say that strength of schedule does not matter - a loss is a loss, a win is a win.


    CFH HMagic bball season next year.
    Let my Fred's Four Horsemen ride: Georges, Hogue, Nader, and McKay.

  4. #4
    Legend
    Points: 178,649, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 11.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Aclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Des Moines, Ia.
    Posts
    12,629
    Points
    178,649
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 81
    Given: 320

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Of course stats lie--they misrepresent the truth based upon opponents.




    Paul Rhoads' players never quit.
    (They just disappear offseason)


  5. #5
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 81,407, Level: 88
    Level completed: 70%, Points required for next Level: 543
    Overall activity: 99.7%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Honolulu, HI
    Posts
    4,552
    Points
    81,407
    Level
    88
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 614
    Given: 36

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Yeah, I've always hated that line. If an team A starts a drive on the 50 and scores a touchdown agains Iowa's defense and Team B starts at their own 30 and scores a touchdown against San Jose State, does that make Team B's offense better?



  6. #6
    Speechless
    Points: 391,300, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 85.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    57,102
    Points
    391,300
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 312
    Given: 258

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    Of course stats lie--they misrepresent the truth based upon opponents.
    The strength of schedule will pretty much stay the same under the new Big 12. Lose a Utah, add a Tulsa, lose a Nebraska and CU, play both Okies, Iowa and Texas each year. The future will not be much easier on strength of schedule. The good old days of not playing Okie or texas and going to a bowl two out of four years will be replaced with a strong schedule every year.

    Pretend we just joined the SEC after playing in the Pac 10.

    Hey, we are functioning as a #100 team on stats. There are around only 64 BCS teams.

    If we had an easier schedule with no Utah and a couple of tweaks like a bye week, we might now be functioning at a #75 team clip on stats.

    We need to reach at least #40-50 in yardage to be a challenge to the big boys in a game.


    CFH HMagic bball season next year.
    Let my Fred's Four Horsemen ride: Georges, Hogue, Nader, and McKay.

  7. #7
    Speechless
    Points: 210,216, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 45.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    16,123
    Points
    210,216
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 417
    Given: 203

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    No, but they don't tell the whole story. Our stats are skewed somewhat because we played the toughest schedule in the nation. If we played another patsy instead of Utah they would look a little better.

    Our numbers are not so bad against other middle of the pack Big 12 teams (Texas Tech, Kansas State).



  8. #8
    Speechless
    Points: 210,216, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 45.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    16,123
    Points
    210,216
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 417
    Given: 203

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Some people would say that strength of schedule does not matter - a loss is a loss, a win is a win.
    Those people would not understand the game of football. Of course quality of opposition matters.



  9. #9
    Pro
    Points: 59,829, Level: 75
    Level completed: 86%, Points required for next Level: 221
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    DRCHIRO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Norwalk
    Posts
    2,206
    Points
    59,829
    Level
    75
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4
    Given: 1

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    And we are still where most of us though we would be after seven games.

    Survive this weekend, beat KU at home and find 2 wins out of NU, CU or Mizzou and this season will be more impressive than last season.



  10. #10
    Speechless
    Points: 467,717, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 12.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    jdoggivjc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Sterling Heights, MI
    Posts
    31,620
    Points
    467,717
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 466
    Given: 321

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Those people would not understand the game of football. Of course quality of opposition matters.
    This. If SOS were not debatable, there would be no debate as to whether Boise St, TCU, or Utah deserved to be in the BCS championship game or not.


    Chuck Lidell: I paint my toenails with pink and black polish. Problem is, I get more paint on my toes and on the carpet than on my nails. Any advice?
    Maria Sharapova: Don't you beat up other guys for a living? I don't know how to answer this.



  11. #11
    Pro
    Points: 101,395, Level: 99
    Level completed: 18%, Points required for next Level: 1,655
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,054
    Points
    101,395
    Level
    99
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5
    Given: 0

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Stats do lie sometimes, everybody knows that. Those stats would indicate a team is 1-6 or 0-7. ISU is 3-4.



  12. #12
    Pro
    Points: 38,708, Level: 60
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 342
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cyhart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    2,705
    Points
    38,708
    Level
    60
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 27
    Given: 4

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    2010 Iowa St. Football Ranking Summary

    Iowa State Total Offense is #104
    Iowa State Scoring Offense is #85

    Iowa State Total Defense is #112
    Iowa State Scoring Defense is #104

    Turnover Margin (probably our best team stat) is #16

    Sacks - #112
    Sacks Allowed - 78
    Scoring Defense - #104
    Scoring Offense - #85

    Punting - Kirby Van der Kamp is #13

    Tackling - AJ Klein is #13, Jake Knot is #22, Sims is #44.

    Interceptions - Knott and Klein at #35

    Fieldgoals - Grant Mahoney is #55

    Passing Efficiency - AA at #93, team at #110
    Passing Efficiency Defense - #91



    We have been consistenly lousy on both sides of ball although the defense looks worse. Most of that may be due to the offense going three and out. Kirby has had many chances to kick the ball as far as he can.
    Didnt need stats to figure that out. So what is your underlying point?


    "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion man"

  13. #13
    Addict
    Points: 81,286, Level: 88
    Level completed: 64%, Points required for next Level: 664
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    5,729
    Points
    81,286
    Level
    88
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 56
    Given: 0

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Some people would say that strength of schedule does not matter - a loss is a loss, a win is a win.
    Those people would be Boise fans.



  14. #14
    Addict
    Points: 98,397, Level: 97
    Level completed: 68%, Points required for next Level: 653
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    tejasclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    5,800
    Points
    98,397
    Level
    97
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 46
    Given: 28

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Other things that do not lie: Shakira's hips.



  15. #15
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 48,346, Level: 67
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 4
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    atlantacyclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Fontvieille Monaco
    Posts
    3,818
    Points
    48,346
    Level
    67
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 10
    Given: 6

    Re: Stats Do Not Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Some people would say that strength of schedule does not matter - a loss is a loss, a win is a win.

    Some people are idiots. Sure, we should have done better... but why do you think that Northern Illinois looks so much better than we do on paper? Because they are better?



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM