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    Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    tonight. He's also a cyclone fan, but he said somethings to me as we discussed the game and future. Obviously, he's had a bad run of things this year so he's a little jaded, but this stuff hurt me a little too:

    1) Quit pointing to the Nebraska game. No one gets that lucky again. Eight turnovers and we barely won.

    2) Going to bowl games doesn't mean crap. Minnesota goes to bowls because roughly half of the BCS teams go. It's not an accomplishment anymore to play in Memphis or New York city with a 6-6 record against some no-name team.

    3) Texas Tech win showed nothing because Tech isn't good, and they dropped 10 passes along with the 3 turnovers

    4) Look at next year...harder schedule to face with losing your best defensive player, your top three safeties, your best dlineman, your qb, rb, TE, and maybe 3 starting OL (I said I think the schedule is easier next yer)

    5) Recruiting isn't going good when you're hoping three juco dlinemen are coming to save the day, and they have zero offers outside of ISU.

    Ok, he's ******. Just like I'm ******. However, those comments hurt me. I'm not saying all (or maybe any) of what he said is true, but he convinced me enough to buy there's some truth in each of them...yuck.

    How we need a huge upset next week to get emotions back to where they were after Tech.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Basically he ******* about everything, even beating Nebraska in Lincoln without our starting QB and RB. Sounds like he just likes to complain and be pessimistic.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Basically he ******* about everything, even beating Nebraska in Lincoln without our starting QB and RB. Sounds like he just likes to complain and be pessimistic.
    They suck we suck, just be glad we are not squaks



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Sounds like a pretty uneducated discussion. I'm losing faith in the intelligence of the average person everyday.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    You have to go to bowl games. Going to bowl games gets you more practice, another game on TV, and overall just more time to develop people. You have to start somewhere and right now we need to go to bowls regardless. Lot of programs go to crappy bowls for several years before their breakout seasons.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by cyatheart View Post
    You have to go to bowl games. Going to bowl games gets you more practice, another game on TV, and overall just more time to develop people. You have to start somewhere and right now we need to go to bowls regardless. Lot of programs go to crappy bowls for several years before their breakout seasons.
    I agree, but that extra practice sure hasnt helped this team.


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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    I agree, but that extra practice sure hasnt helped this team.
    Or would it be worse without it?



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    I agree, but that extra practice sure hasnt helped this team.
    If we were 0-7 I would agree.


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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Or would it be worse without it?
    Well they have given up over 1600 yards in 2 weeks and allowed over 100 pts, while scoring 24. Could it be much worse than that?


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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Well they have given up over 1600 yards in 2 weeks and allowed over 100 pts, while scoring 24. Could it be much worse than that?
    not that it matters, but we have scored 27 points.

    I wish I had a nickel for every time someone posted on CF asserting some fact that wasn't actually correct. It'd take about 3 weeks to have all the worlds money.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Well they have given up over 1600 yards in 2 weeks and allowed over 100 pts, while scoring 24. Could it be much worse than that?
    yeah we could have allowed that to two teams that weren't rated in the top 10.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Well they have given up over 1600 yards in 2 weeks and allowed over 100 pts, while scoring 24. Could it be much worse than that?
    We also have two wins over probable bowl teams. Go through our schedules the past several years and tell me how many of our teams, even Mac's bowl teams, had more than that in the regular season? 2002 is the only one I can think of.

    Even our bowl teams have suffered blowout losses. The team with the most wins in school history (2000) had losses by scores of 49-27, 30-7, and 56-10. The following year we went back to a bowl game despite a 48-14 loss to Nebraska (41-0 at halftime) and a 42-3 loss at home to a Kansas State team that finished 6-6 and was 3-4 when we played them. We went to a bowl again in 2002 despite losing 49-3 to Oklahoma and 58-7 to Kansas State.

    I'm not saying we're going to a bowl game this year, and we certainly have a ways to go to get this program where Rhoads wants it to be, but let's have a little perspective, especially when we're facing the toughest schedule in the country.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    CPR had virtually no real material to work with when he took over. It will take 3 to 4 years to see results if he succeeds. Anyone else thinks any different is a dolt.


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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by cyguytillidie View Post
    yeah we could have allowed that to two teams that weren't rated in the top 10.
    exactly. we got blown out by TAMU and Oklahoma state last year, teams that are clearly below what Utah\Oklahoma are now. Its to be expected that we would get beaten by more by better teams.

    the only thing that differentiates our current situation, and path to bowl eligibility is the utah game for me. if we played someone of similar level in the nonconference, like Army last year, we come out of the noncon with 3 wins. We then beat a conference opponent we werent supposed to beat (texas tech this year, nebraska last year), 1 that's a tossup (cu last year and this year), and have one more 'should win' game (kansas this year, baylor last). By having utah, a game thats in the 'definitely lose' category, we now have to beat a team that is on the 'probably lose' category, like missouri.



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    Re: Some rough thoughts from my Gopher neighbor

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    exactly. we got blown out by TAMU and Oklahoma state last year, teams that are clearly below what Utah\Oklahoma are now. Its to be expected that we would get beaten by more by better teams.

    the only thing that differentiates our current situation, and path to bowl eligibility is the utah game for me. if we played someone of similar level in the nonconference, like Army last year, we come out of the noncon with 3 wins. We then beat a conference opponent we werent supposed to beat (texas tech this year, nebraska last year), 1 that's a tossup (cu last year and this year), and have one more 'should win' game (kansas this year, baylor last). By having utah, a game thats in the 'definitely lose' category, we now have to beat a team that is on the 'probably lose' category, like missouri.
    Missouri might be the only team in the probably lose column right now.



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