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    Vanderbilt and the SEC

    How much more would the already poor quality of academics in that conference drag down even more if they weren't in the conference?

    I was just watching part of their game and it just seems like that school is such a weird fit for that conference. I must admit that I don't know a ton about the history of the SECOND, but they've got to be one of the founding schools to still be in there.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    They were one of the charter members in 1932.


    Green hills for thy throne, and for crown a golden melody/Ringing in the hearts of all who bring thee love and loyalty/Dear Alma Mater, make our spirits great
    True and valiant like the bells of I-O-WA STATE!

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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Vandy must feel like they compete with one hand tied behind their back. It makes me smile when their program does well; it seems like they do it the 'right' way.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    In my opinion, when it comes to academic institutions in the SEC, only Florida and Georgia are anywhere close to Vandy. Every other school in that conference is far down the line. Also, I don't think Vanderbilt has a Athletic Department.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbai1986 View Post
    In my opinion, when it comes to academic institutions in the SEC, only Florida and Georgia are anywhere close to Vandy. Every other school in that conference is far down the line. Also, I don't think Vanderbilt has a Athletic Department.
    Alabama and Auburn are both rated above ISU in the latest US News rankings.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Alabama and Auburn are both rated above ISU in the latest US News rankings.
    Is that just for undergrad or is that also accounting for grad schools?



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    From what I have heard. Each conference wants a private school so they can keep some of the conference finances private.

    Big Ten- Northwestern
    Big 12 - Baylor
    Pac 10 - Stanford
    SEC - Vandy



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbai1986 View Post
    Is that just for undergrad or is that also accounting for grad schools?
    Yes, it accounts for grad schools; here is US News description of their "national universities" rankings:

    "Schools in the National Universities category, such as Yale and UCLA, offer a full range of undergraduate majors, master's, and doctoral degrees. These colleges also are committed to producing groundbreaking research."

    Alabama - tied for 79th
    Auburn - 85
    ISU - tied for 94th

    I know that Auburn has been considered a peer university of ours for quite some time.

    National Universities Rankings - Best College - Education - US News



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Yes, it accounts for grad schools; here is US News description of their "national universities" rankings:

    "Schools in the National Universities category, such as Yale and UCLA, offer a full range of undergraduate majors, master's, and doctoral degrees. These colleges also are committed to producing groundbreaking research."

    Alabama - tied for 79th
    Auburn - 85
    ISU - tied for 94th

    I know that Auburn has been considered a peer university of ours for quite some time.

    National Universities Rankings - Best College - Education - US News
    Facts, who needs them! Speaking of Auburn, they just got away with a touchdown that the running back most certainly fumbled at the 1 yard line and Arkansas recovered.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Alabama and Auburn are both rated above ISU in the latest US News rankings.
    Ouch! That hurts.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbai1986 View Post
    Facts, who needs them! Speaking of Auburn, they just got away with a touchdown that the running back most certainly fumbled at the 1 yard line and Arkansas recovered.
    We get killed in those rankings because we don't have a law/med school and we accept 85% of applicants. If we were willing to pull a Clemson and do what we could to manipulate the factors that are included in the rankings (No lectures over 49 students, etc...) we could jump significantly.



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    Re: Vanderbilt and the SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUKoolaid View Post
    We get killed in those rankings because we don't have a law/med school and we accept 85% of applicants. If we were willing to pull a Clemson and do what we could to manipulate the factors that are included in the rankings (No lectures over 49 students, etc...) we could jump significantly.
    yeah.. things like 'selectivity'... which doesnt necessarily tell you how good the school is at teaching, just how many they can reject, and who they let in.



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