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    JP has to priortize improvements right now

    and i think he has made the right decisions.

    Track needs an outdoor facility. We have a good history in track and field and an above average indoor facility. Jamie said tonight that we are very comparable to Nebraska on scholarships and funding for track with one exception, the outdoor facility.

    Soccer needs to get out of the floodplain. With that done, maybe Hilton and its parking lots can be levyed.

    New football offices attached to the Bergstrom and the South endzone will ahve to wait apparently on new TV revenue or increased FB season ticket sales. FB season ticket sales are down 10-15% from Chizik (puke) levels. Hard to believe, but it is what it is. If CPR gets things going it will work out.

    One real piece of news is that with FB offices in the Bergstrom, the south endzone, when it does happen will be double deck and actually increase capacity.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    I disagree. He has to prioritize because we are short on funds, yet he is investing in non-revenue sports.

    Despite those needs, we can field teams in those sports.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by farcyted View Post
    and i think he has made the right decisions.

    Track needs an outdoor facility. We have a good history in track and field and an above average indoor facility. Jamie said tonight that we are very comparable to Nebraska on scholarships and funding for track with one exception, the outdoor facility.

    Soccer needs to get out of the floodplain. With that done, maybe Hilton and its parking lots can be levyed.

    New football offices attached to the Bergstrom and the South endzone will ahve to wait apparently on new TV revenue or increased FB season ticket sales. FB season ticket sales are down 10-15% from Chizik (puke) levels. Hard to believe, but it is what it is. If CPR gets things going it will work out.

    One real piece of news is that with FB offices in the Bergstrom, the south endzone, when it does happen will be double deck and actually increase capacity.
    Thank goodness track drives the bus in college athletics



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by farcyted View Post
    and i think he has made the right decisions.

    Track needs an outdoor facility. We have a good history in track and field and an above average indoor facility. Jamie said tonight that we are very comparable to Nebraska on scholarships and funding for track with one exception, the outdoor facility.

    Soccer needs to get out of the floodplain. With that done, maybe Hilton and its parking lots can be levyed.

    New football offices attached to the Bergstrom and the South endzone will ahve to wait apparently on new TV revenue or increased FB season ticket sales. FB season ticket sales are down 10-15% from Chizik (puke) levels. Hard to believe, but it is what it is. If CPR gets things going it will work out.

    One real piece of news is that with FB offices in the Bergstrom, the south endzone, when it does happen will be double deck and actually increase capacity.
    ISU and the city/state need to work on that. You cant put a levee in the middle of town. There are to many homes around there that would be affected by a levee.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    they should just buy the area that is owned the haunted forest and put in a levee there, put one on the north side of lincoln way that would prevent flooding over by cyride, and one near brookside park. you could just have a steel wall that could be inserted over lincoln way to keep the water confined to just going over the bridge and hope it flows south of town. ames would have to add more levees in the tree line line along squaw creek to prevent the walmart area from flooding again. probably way to complicated and expensive since you would have to buy a lot of land and tear down buildings in order to do this. but it could prevent the issues and in the long run may save money if we keep getting summer rains like this every other year



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Once track has the facility they can host meets. Hosting meets equals increased revenue. Increased revenue equals less dependance on football money. That frees up more of football's money for football. Not to mention if we can get close to Nebby levels in track, it will make our university more noticable on a national level thus growing our brand name.



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    Re: I disagree

    I don't think so. At least it should be checked out. University Blvd already holds back a 100 year flood. Another 3 or 4 feet might do a 500 year. Hilton, parking lots and the football area (most of which is already above flood levels) is not that big an area. There aren't any homes below the athletic complex and South Duff is getting cleared out. A ring levee around a high value area like Hilton may only add a few inches to flood stage downstream.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    And to think that I was expecting this thread to be about how JP is terrible for putting the scoreboard project first on the list!

    You have to do the projects you have the money for. New scoreboard/sound system and track/field complex will be "small" projects that will have a good impact - for the track/soccer folks, they'll get a totally new facility. For the football fans, hopefully they'll get a better experience.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    Once track has the facility they can host meets. Hosting meets equals increased revenue. Increased revenue equals less dependance on football money. That frees up more of football's money for football. Not to mention if we can get close to Nebby levels in track, it will make our university more noticable on a national level thus growing our brand name.
    I find it notable that you are using a university that was one of the first to heavily invest in football and still currently invests near the top as why we should have a fiscal policy of investing in non-revenue sports before football.

    Is NU track and field non-revenue? So if we are near the best, and spend more than a large majority, it may barley generate a little revenue?



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by WhoISthis View Post
    I find it notable that you are using a university that was one of the first to heavily invest in football and still currently invests near the top as why we should have a fiscal policy of investing in non-revenue sports before football.

    Is NU track and field non-revenue? So if we are near the best, and spend more than a large majority, it may barley generate a little revenue?
    I'm interested to know exactly which sports you think the AD is supposed to support and which ones it isn't supposed to support...



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    I am not saying we should invest in it before football. We need football improvements but have you seen the outdoor track? That facility is needed badly.
    Nebby has a very strong tradition in track. I'm saying if we can compete with them (top 10-20) people around will notice our university more. Think UNI in the early 2000s in track. Top 10ish program until the coach went to Ark. People knew who UNI was and could identify their logo.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    I am not saying we should invest in it before football. We need football improvements but have you seen the outdoor track? That facility is needed badly.
    Nebby has a very strong tradition in track. I'm saying if we can compete with them (top 10-20) people around will notice our university more. Think UNI in the early 2000s in track. Top 10ish program until the coach went to Ark. People knew who UNI was and could identify their logo.
    UNI and Nebraska are/were good in track? I don't think anyone knows and/or cares.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonMagic View Post
    UNI and Nebraska are/were good in track? I don't think anyone knows and/or cares.
    Not everyone does. But creating a national brand (at ISU) has to come from all sports doing well. Believe it or not there are fans that watch and care about those olympic sports. Make a name there, get known better. It wouldn't even be close to what would happen if football was a power but let's be real, we're never going to be a powerhouse team.



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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by hurdleisu24 View Post
    Not everyone does. But creating a national brand (at ISU) has to come from all sports doing well. Believe it or not there are fans that watch and care about those olympic sports. Make a name there, get known better. It wouldn't even be close to what would happen if football was a power but let's be real, we're never going to be a powerhouse team.
    A national brand comes from Football/MBB. That's it.


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    Re: JP has to priortize improvements right now

    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonMagic View Post
    A national brand comes from Football/MBB. That's it.
    Its unfortunate, but true. We can excite our own fans by excelling in other areas (look at the followings wbb, vb, and wrestling have developed here) but they dont do anything for us as a national brand.



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