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    Ford on a roll

    I do wonder if driving will be any fun at all though soon.

    Ford is leaving GM and Chrysler in the dust - Oct. 7, 2010

    FORTUNE -- General Motors and Chrysler are beginning to make some headway after getting a financial and operational overhaul compliments of the U.S. bankruptcy court. But Ford, operating free of interference by the court or the federal government is moving even faster and is beginning to put real distance between itself and its two domestic rivals.

    Ford's U.S. sales in September rose 40% over a year ago, and it has gained retail market share in 23 of the last 24 months. By comparison, GM's sales rose 11% last month.


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    I think the reason is twofold - one, they decided last minute not to take any bailout money, which left them with a good reputation across the nation. Two, of the three manufacturers, they're the only one that puts out a decent car.


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by simply1 View Post
    I do wonder if driving will be any fun at all though soon.

    Ford is leaving GM and Chrysler in the dust - Oct. 7, 2010

    FORTUNE -- General Motors and Chrysler are beginning to make some headway after getting a financial and operational overhaul compliments of the U.S. bankruptcy court. But Ford, operating free of interference by the court or the federal government is moving even faster and is beginning to put real distance between itself and its two domestic rivals.

    Ford's U.S. sales in September rose 40% over a year ago, and it has gained retail market share in 23 of the last 24 months. By comparison, GM's sales rose 11% last month.
    I know people that refuse to buy GM and Chrysler due to the gov't bailout.


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    I know people that refuse to buy GM and Chrysler due to the gov't bailout.
    I am not sure of their reasoning but I guess its their prerogative.



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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    I think the reason is twofold - one, they decided last minute not to take any bailout money, which left them with a good reputation across the nation. Two, of the three manufacturers, they're the only one that puts out a decent car.
    3. The whole Toyota safety thing.


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith86 View Post
    3. The whole Toyota safety thing.
    Which was 100% overblown by a government that owns two separate motor companies (confirmed by a friend of mine that works at a rival auto dealership). Quite honestly, if it wasn't for the facts that we didn't like the layout and design of the interior and location of control buttons and we absolutely fell in love with the Nissan Altima that we bought, we definitely would have bought a Camry


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer View Post
    I am not sure of their reasoning but I guess its their prerogative.
    Most that I have met with that reasoning are saying they refuse to buy due to how the first line stock and bond holders were treated in the buyout. Mainly that the UAW were paid first in the bailout and the bond holders were left having to take the leftovers. I'll preface this by saying I havent done much research on this but, I've heard the line from a couple different coworkers and executives at my company.



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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    I know people that refuse to buy GM and Chrysler due to the gov't bailout.
    And I'll never buy a Ford.....just because I never would. Don't like their cars/trucks, and I know how to work on GM vehicles.



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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Ford made a dedicated improvement in the quality of their products about 8 years ago, while GM focused on making care with space age technology that didn't work for more than a year, and Chrysler was pushing more power and ugly designs that made no sense. (250 HP station wagon?, PT Cruiser that gets 20 PG, when some Pickup do better.)



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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Which was 100% overblown by a government that owns two separate motor companies (confirmed by a friend of mine that works at a rival auto dealership). Quite honestly, if it wasn't for the facts that we didn't like the layout and design of the interior and location of control buttons and we absolutely fell in love with the Nissan Altima that we bought, we definitely would have bought a Camry
    I agree that it was overdone by the government. (Ahh, the joys of socialism. ) I just meant that any company that takes that kind of a beating on the PR front is going to suffer some in the sales department, opening up that market for another company to move in.


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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Ford's in a good place right now. They have two 2 good small cars coming out or already out, the dollar is tanking, the other 2 took bailouts, Chrysler doesn't seem to be doing anything right besides the new Jeep GC, their reliability is right up there now.

    On top of this Toyota, even though they build super reliable cars, has a very big and boring lineup of car. Honda seems to be moving this way as well. The new insight and CRZ are going to be the biggest failures in Honda history. In the mean time the Civic, Accord, Pilot, etc are no longer leaders in their class.

    I would say at this point, Ford should be more worried about Hyundai. They've had the biggest turnaround I've seen in automobile history.



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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Ford also did better in the recession than GM or Chrysler. GM and Chrysler would have gone under without the bailout, Ford (obviously) didn't need it to survive.

    For these reasons, I hope to buy a Ford next time around.



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    Re: Ford on a roll

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    Re: Ford on a roll

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    I know people that refuse to buy GM and Chrysler due to the gov't bailout.
    I wouldn't buy a GM or Chrysler in the past due to their poor quality. Now, thanks to the bailout, they have no chance of getting my future business either.



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