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    Future Recruiting

    I think that the new schedule implemented by the XII will help with our recruiting. Our coaches can use it to our advantage telling future recruits the following:

    • We will play on TV a lot more with Texas, OU and other south teams on our schedule.
    • If they are from TX, OK, etc, we can use that in our favor saying their parents can watch them at these games
    • If they are not recruited by their home state teams we can tell them they are going to play against them every year
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    What is everyone thoughts?


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    Re: Future Recruiting

    1. We are already on TV a lot. And when we play on national TV, we have a poor record.
    2. We play a game in Texas every year pretty much already.
    3. We already recruit players that aren't recruited by their home state teams.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but it's not that much of a change.


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    Re: Future Recruiting

    New Big 12 will be a big boost for ISU recruiting. 2 games in Texas and 1 game in Oklahoma every year will increase exposure to kids and parents. Plus ISU will play 6 teams total from Texas and Oklahoma each year. Recruiting in Texas will pick up drastically IMO.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    I honestly think, more than anything else, not having Nebraska and Colorado in the conference will help us for recruiting in Texas/Oklahoma. Nebraska and Colorado can no longer offer the "We play in Texas so your parents can still watch us pay" routine, opening up more recruits to teams like us.

    As far as our schedule changing, I don't think that makes as much of a difference as the point I alluded to above.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneState1028 View Post
    I honestly think, more than anything else, not having Nebraska and Colorado in the conference will help us for recruiting in Texas/Oklahoma. Nebraska and Colorado can no longer offer the "We play in Texas so your parents can still watch us pay" routine, opening up more recruits to teams like us.

    As far as our schedule changing, I don't think that makes as much of a difference as the point I alluded to above.
    This. If we get anything out of the change in the Big 12 it will be because of these factors, IMO.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    This. If we get anything out of the change in the Big 12 it will be because of these factors, IMO.
    1st Tier Texas Recruits
    *Texas, TA&M, Oklahoma

    2nd Tier Texas Recruits
    *Tech, OSU, Baylor

    3rd Tier Texas Recruits
    *Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado

    4th Tier Texas Recruits
    *ISU, KSU, Kansas


    After Nebraska and Colorado leave, I could see ISU getting primarily 3rd and sneaking up to get some 2nd tier Texas talent.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    we should be recruiting the chicago area and the state of ohio harder.
    stapelton,majors and earl bruce used to pull in some real good ballers from chicago and ohio. GO CYCLONES!!!!!!!!!!BEAT TEXAS TECH. WE NEED A WIN SO WE CAN GO BOWLING AGAIN.....


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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we should be recruiting the chicago area and the state of ohio harder.
    stapelton,majors and earl bruce used to pull in some real good ballers from chicago and ohio. GO CYCLONES!!!!!!!!!!BEAT TEXAS TECH. WE NEED A WIN SO WE CAN GO BOWLING AGAIN.....
    Lots of talent in those areas. Which also means lots of competition for those recruits.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we should be recruiting the chicago area and the state of ohio harder.
    stapelton,majors and earl bruce used to pull in some real good ballers from chicago and ohio. GO CYCLONES!!!!!!!!!!BEAT TEXAS TECH. WE NEED A WIN SO WE CAN GO BOWLING AGAIN.....
    Majors & Bruce were recruiting in a different era and had different recruiting ties than our current staff.

    For one thing, recruiting was much more regional in the '70's. Michigan & Ohio State & Notre Dame were the premier programs in the Midwest in the 1970's, and after them there was a big drop-off. So in the '70's, Iowa State could compete for their leftovers on pretty equal terms with the other Big Ten schools and there wasn't much competition outside of Big Ten schools. Since then other Big Ten programs have emerged - Iowa in the '80's and Wisconsin and Purdue in the '90's, and now there's competition from BigEast schools for Ohio recruits that didn't exist in the '70's. With every Big10 game on TV now, I don't see many recruits from the Chicago area or state of Ohio wanting to go to ISU over any Big10 team when their family can watch them play in person or on TV every weekend. Realistically if Iowa State were to make a hard push into Ohio and the Chicago area now, we would be competing for MAC talent.

    Secondly, the amount of talent in Ohio & Illinois hasn't increased dramatically since the 70's, while the talent in Texas and Florida has increased dramatically as those states' populations have rapidly grown. In 1970, the population of Ohio was about 10.6 million and in Illinois, it was 11.1 million. Today Ohio is 11.5 million while Illinois is 12.9 million, increases of 8% and 16 %, respectively, in 40 years. Meanwhile during the same 40 years, the populations of Florida and Texas have more than doubled (FL: 6.8 million to 18.5 million; TX: 11.2 million to 24.8 million). With many more times the number of recruits in Texas & Florida, it makes sense to devote more resources to recruiting those areas.

    Iowa State has its best shot at recruiting Texas now that the Big12-2 has 4/10 schools there and improved conference television coverage should see us on more Texas TV sets in the next few years. With Iowa no longer recruiting Texas heavily and Nebraska moving to the BigTen, there should be some opportunity to increase the quality and number of Texans committing to ISU.

    We should also have a good shot at Floridians given our coaching staff's connections there.


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    Re: Future Recruiting

    we still need to recruit chicago,east and west st louis,indiana,and ohio ....in the area's of south eastern and southern ohio and in southern indiana, you can find some huge linemen. in chicago and in the surrounding suburbs ,there are plenty of good recruits to recruit....we are slowly getting back into these are with coach bill bleil.











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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we should be recruiting the chicago area and the state of ohio harder.
    stapelton,majors and earl bruce used to pull in some real good ballers from chicago and ohio. GO CYCLONES!!!!!!!!!!BEAT TEXAS TECH. WE NEED A WIN SO WE CAN GO BOWLING AGAIN.....
    A bigger reason to recruit these regions and even further East is because ISU will probably be in the Big East in the next 5 years, we need to build the pipeline out there.



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    Re: Future Recruiting

    Quote Originally Posted by woodie View Post
    we still need to recruit chicago,east and west st louis,indiana,and ohio ....in the area's of south eastern and southern ohio and in southern indiana, you can find some huge linemen. in chicago and in the surrounding suburbs ,there are plenty of good recruits to recruit....we are slowly getting back into these are with coach bill bleil.
    Iowa State can win with most of its linemen and LB's, Safeties, and TE's coming from in-state or adjacent states if we recruit athletes first & foremost and have a coaching staff and strength & conditioning program committed to their development (I think we do). Iowa has shown that you can win consistently with the same caliber of recruit that Iowa State can get. We will have to go out of area to get cornerbacks and half of our RB's & WR's and QB's. Where we are most likely to get the best players at these crucial positions should drive our recruiting focus.

    We can go to the eastern Midwest (working for Iowa) and recruit Chicago suburbs heavily and Indiana & Ohio. Here's what we face for competition: 11 BigTen schools and Notre Dame plus BigEast schools Cincinnati, Louisville, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia plus SEC's Kentucky plus Big12's Iowa State & Missouri that exist in-state or in adjacent states to Illinois (Chicago), Indiana, and Ohio. So 19 BCS schools with a geographic & exposure advantage over us for recruits in three states with a combined populations of 30 million. Tough to get much more than a MAC-caliber player.

    Or we can go to Texas and Florida, where there is double the talent and less BCS schools in close proximity. And our staff has more ties to Texas and Florida. And we play Texas schools and our games are on TV there. And we run the spread offense which is popular in those states. Texas and Florida is who it'll be.

    So we won't be heavily recruiting Chicago, Indiana, and Ohio. Let Bleill work his magic in those areas, but I'll be surprised if we get anyone of note.


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