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    More from the Pistol?

    I think this formation is better for us than having ARob stand next to AA. This allows for the runningback to be at, almost, full speed when he gets the hand-off. We all know our o-line cant hold blocks for too long. This plays to our weakness allowing ARob to hit the hole quicker. Plus, having woody running at full speed by the time he hits the line of scrimmage will result in 2-3 yds guaranteed--perfect for short yardage.


    Anyone want to see more of this formation? People dont like it?



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone1985 View Post
    I think this formation is better for us than having ARob stand next to AA. This allows for the runningback to be at, almost, full speed when he gets the hand-off. We all know our o-line cant hold blocks for too long. This plays to our weakness allowing ARob to hit the hole quicker. Plus, having woody running at full speed by the time he hits the line of scrimmage will result in 2-3 yds guaranteed--perfect for short yardage.


    Anyone want to see more of this formation? People dont like it?

    id actually prefer to mix up the pro style and shotgun/spread. Id go under center and sometimes go to the spread.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    i would like a mix of pro style as well.


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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tedcyclone View Post
    id actually prefer to mix up the pro style and shotgun/spread. Id go under center and sometimes go to the spread.
    Pistol is how UCLA beat Texas. I would like to see more of it.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    I'm liking Pistol because it lets guys build speed. If you get a chance to watch the replay of UNI, you can really see this with Woody, he just barrels into the hole. Not sure if it helps A-Rob nearly as much, as his game is more about reading and selecting the best hole.

    The advantages of Pro style is that Arnaud has played his best ball when we ran a few pro formations, although I still think he can produce out of the shotgun, as soon as we stop trying to force him into being a pocket passer.


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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    I thought that we were most effective running the ball against UNI when we just did a straight handoff, not the read option. I hope we have a better mix of those in the future. With Arnaud in there it seems like all we do is the read option.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    OK, I will bite as the football dumby. Define the pistol?



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Something like this:




    QB in a semi-shotgun formation with the HB a couple yards behind him. Basically a mix between a shotgun and I-formation



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberJJJ View Post
    OK, I will bite as the football dumby. Define the pistol?
    Basically looks like your regular pro style except the QB is about 4 yards back, RB is about 7 yds back.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    I know that the O-line hasn't been as dominant as it was last year, but overall, I actually think they've done a pretty good job. I'm not so sure why people continue to bag on them. They're pass protection has been pretty good so far, but the run blocking could improve. Of all the offensive units, the O-line has not been the major problem.

    I do think the pistol formation suits Woody well, but A-Rob seems to to better on the zone reads, standing next to the QB. However, I don't think any specific formation is going to really solve any of the offensive woes. We need our receivers to do a better job of getting open (creating separation) and our QB's need to improve their timing/accuracy.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_phoria View Post
    I know that the O-line hasn't been as dominant as it was last year, but overall, I actually think they've done a pretty good job. I'm not so sure why people continue to bag on them. They're pass protection has been pretty good so far, but the run blocking could improve. Of all the offensive units, the O-line has not been the major problem.

    I do think the pistol formation suits Woody well, but A-Rob seems to to better on the zone reads, standing next to the QB. However, I don't think any specific formation is going to really solve any of the offensive woes. We need our receivers to do a better job of getting open (creating separation) and our QB's need to improve their timing/accuracy.
    They are a step down from last year but we were spoiled last year.

    My biggest issue with them are the penalties in scoring position.


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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    They are a step down from last year but we were spoiled last year.

    My biggest issue with them are the penalties in scoring position.
    I second this. Exectuition is the main problem right now. You see it on penalties, but also in how many times we have two guys blocking 1 defender while another defender goes free, or having an Olineman looking for someone to block while a LB blows up the play. When we run, there always seems to be defenders in the right place at the right time- to me that is play calling and trouble getting to the second level.

    Certainly the Oline is not as good after losing two NFL quality players, but we have also missed many holes and made the wrong reads. I think that is why Woody has looked pretty good- he takes what is there and explodes through.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Only problem with running the pistol is that it takes away our threat of AA running that we get from the zone read.


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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    Only problem with running the pistol is that it takes away our threat of AA running that we get from the zone read.
    Not true, because it is run the same way, except the running back has a full head of steam at the hand-off. Im pretty sure Nevada's QB has as many rushing yards as their runningbacks do. Although, that guy is a stud too.



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    Re: More from the Pistol?

    I thought pro style involved for a fullback? I form, strong I, weak I, etc.

    Now we could be discussing more of a single back set, which is a variation of pro style, but lacks the extra leading blocker.

    I'm quite tired to seeing the spread to be honest, but its the evolution of college football. Pistol is a happy medium, and a read option is still very much possible with this set. Heck, put in an offset FB right next to the QB and you got yourself a triple option attack without having to go flexbone.


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