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    WR separation?

    "Our WR aren't getting any separation!" I am not sure I even know what anyone means when they say this. Most of the time we play against zone coverage. The only time you need to get separation as a receiver is in man coverage and when you are going deep. Success throwing Bubbles, Slants, Outs, and Hitches has little to do with a WR getting separation. I think some reporter, TV analyst or coach must have said this 1 time last year and it has stuck with our receivers. The bottom line is Arnaud throws a very hard ball and if as a college receiver you get 2 hands it you must to catch it or our passing game will continue to suck. Even short passes must be lasers or the defensive pursuit will get there the same time that the ball does.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Getting no separation is no excuse for not trying to throw it down field a couple times a game. We need to be taking at least 4 or 5 shots down field to Money or Sed a game. Or is it our QB's cant do that? Hmmm ponder on that for a while..


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    Re: WR separation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigguns View Post
    "Our WR aren't getting any separation!" I am not sure I even know what anyone means when they say this. Most of the time we play against zone coverage. The only time you need to get separation as a receiver is in man coverage and when you are going deep. Success throwing Bubbles, Slants, Outs, and Hitches has little to do with a WR getting separation. I think some reporter, TV analyst or coach must have said this 1 time last year and it has stuck with our receivers. The bottom line is Arnaud throws a very hard ball and if as a college receiver you get 2 hands it you must to catch it or our passing game will continue to suck. Even short passes must be lasers or the defensive pursuit will get there the same time that the ball does.
    It seems that many times our WR's are running routes that are so predictable we have defensive players right on top of our WR's. Contrast that with how wide open our opponents' WR's can get.

    Sometimes AA throws too hard of a ball. A ball with a bit more loft to A-Rob would have tied up the game against K-State. A-Rob DID have a LOT of separation on that play. Absolutely inexcusable to miss that one.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigguns View Post
    "Our WR aren't getting any separation!" I am not sure I even know what anyone means when they say this. Most of the time we play against zone coverage. The only time you need to get separation as a receiver is in man coverage and when you are going deep. Success throwing Bubbles, Slants, Outs, and Hitches has little to do with a WR getting separation. I think some reporter, TV analyst or coach must have said this 1 time last year and it has stuck with our receivers. The bottom line is Arnaud throws a very hard ball and if as a college receiver you get 2 hands it you must to catch it or our passing game will continue to suck. Even short passes must be lasers or the defensive pursuit will get there the same time that the ball does.
    I think what people are talking about is our WRs getting jammed at the line? Once they get passed that though, the defense isn't allowed to touch them. So maybe they aren't physical enough on that initial jam?

    As far as AA... the ball has to hit them in the hands first before they can catch it.

    John Walters commented on such a situation last night on the radio. We threw a WR screen pass out to Shontrelle, which Walters said could have went for 10 yds if Tiller would have hit Shontrelle right in stride on the hands. But Shontrelle had to stop and come back to get the pass thrown way behind him. It stopped all his momentum and killed the timing of the blocks... and we lost 3 yds. That can be the difference between success and failure with this offense.

    AA did the same thing in week one to Money. Could have been a big gain, but AA threw it right at Money's shoelaces and he had no chance.



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    WR separation?

    I'd argue that completing passes such as slants, outs, bubbles, and hitches has everything to do with the WR getting separation. If your receivers can't aggressively push a DB back before they make their break in a route, it makes it much too easy for the DB to stay with them effectively taking that receiver out of the play. If your receivers are lazy in making their cuts on outs and slants they aren't going to create the space necessary for a potential completed pass.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Sometimes AA throws too hard of a ball. A ball with a bit more loft to A-Rob would have tied up the game against K-State. A-Rob DID have a LOT of separation on that play. Absolutely inexcusable to miss that one.
    I agree he should have hit A-Rob, I wonder how bad his shoulder was at that point.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Go back and re-watch the last 3 games. Take note of the number of receivers we have running wide open that our QB's never throw too. Separation is not the problem with the offense.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigguns View Post
    "Our WR aren't getting any separation!"

    People just repeat what they hear. Most of the people saying it don't know what it means, either.



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    Re: WR separation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Senolcyc View Post
    People just repeat what they hear. Most of the people saying it don't know what it means, either.
    Reminds me of Animal Farm.



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