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    Should Bonds be inducted

    Baring a career ending injury, Barry Bonds will break the all-time homerun record in July. With all the talk about his steriod use, what actions should be taken if any. Should he be allowed into the hall? Should there be an asterisk beside his name in the record book? I know what the people on the left coast think, and that is that he didn't do anything wrong. I want to know what some of the cyclone fanatics have to say about this topic.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    I hate the man, and I'm 99% sure that he cheated. However, until someone can directly implicate him, he's innocent until proven guilty. On his numbers alone, he's a hall of famer.

    Sadly, he would have been a hall of famer without steroids or a home run record. He was a great hitter and field (basically all around athlete) before he ever bulked up. It's a tragedy that he felt he needed to cheat.

    I would love to see him get walked for the rest of his career.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    My guess is that MLBignores any kind of scandal around Bonds (no asterisk). They've made a lot of money on steroids, they've ignored the problem, why would they make an example of Bonds at this point?

    Hall of fame voters, I hope, take a different approach.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    I don't like all of the "this guy shouldn't be in because of steriods" talk because for all we know, all of the pitchers were juicing too. We have evidence that as many pitchers have been caught on riods than position players.

    Now I don't like Bonds but you can't discredit what he has done.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    I think you misspelled the title of your thread...the word you mean is spelled, "indicted".


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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Inducted or Indicted???? J/k

    My personal opinion is innocent until proven guilty. I know their is proof all over the place but he has not been found guilty of anything by the US legal system or even MLB for that matter.

    I also think that if Bud Selig is not there when he breaks the record it would be a travesty. I however don't believe Hank Aaron has any duty or responsibility to be there. Bud Selig and the rest of baseball are responsible for creating this "monster". They ignored everything back in 1998(?) when Slammin' Sammy and Mark McGuire were launching them out of the parks at records pace. Baseball needed the excitement back then due to the lack of support stemming from the strike shortened season in 1994 and they turned their back on the issue then.

    This is a new era in sports with all the perfomance enhancers and their is NO WAY to compare eras anymore. This goes for all sports, including football, basketball, golf, baseball, horse racing, tennis, and especially track and field.

    Side Note: I cannot stand the guy so I am not an appologist!!


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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    I believe 100% that he should be in the hall. It is a joke that anyone would even consider not voting for him. Sure he cheated, but MLB knew it was going on, and did nothing to stop it, they encouraged it with all the HR hype, with Sosa, McGuire, and Bonds. But in this era 1/2 the players at least are taking performance enhancing drugs, and MLB knows it. Only recently did they attempt to grow a pair and do something about it.

    This is like saying Lance should not be in the cycling hall of fame because there is a group of people who think he cheated. Until it is proven he is 100% innocent.


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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    IF you don't induct Bonds then you really can't let any player from the 90's or early00's in... That includes Clemens, Big Unit, Arod, etc... You just have to treat it like the juiced ball era, dead ball era, etc and weigh the stats collectively... How they act shouldn't have any bearing...



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Personally...no.

    However, the MLB looks at the era in which a player was in the league and Bond played in a steroid era. Sadly, we don't know how many pitchers he faced that were also on some form of steroids. So, if a pitcher on 'roids pitches to a batter on 'roids - isn't it then a wash?

    I can't stand defending Bonds and that's not what I'm doing. Just the facts - he'll be in.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    I think you misspelled the title of your thread...the word you mean is spelled, "indicted".
    Dang you, dang you straight to heck! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the thread. You just beat me to it.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    He'll be in the HOF unless they prove he did steriods. I know people think he's an a-hole and did them but I'm one to say he's innocent till proven guilty so if you can't prove it then you have to let him in. How many players have been caught using them lately but Bonds takes the same tests as all these guys do and he's never failed one so either he's really good at hiding it or he isn't doing them.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Steriods may make you stronger, but it can't make you hit a ball. It can't make you play your position better. I think they guy should be in. He is one of the best ever.

    On a side note: I really don't like the guy, but my personal opinion of him doesn't change what he has done as part of the game.


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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Big Mac was different, because he was using Kreotine (not sure the spelling), which was legal at the time he was using it. He never said that he was not using muscle enhancers, so I think MM is a different case than Bonds. Even though there is no proof as of yet that he had used steriod, But for a guy to from a 20 to 30 homerun guy, to a guy who consitently hit 50+, come on. Maybe I shouldn't accuse, but COME ON.



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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Quote Originally Posted by CyinCo View Post
    Steriods may make you stronger, but it can't make you hit a ball. It can't make you play your position better.
    But I think it can help your body repair itself more and keep the muscles in better condition, which leads to less injury and the ability to play longer.


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    Re: Should Bonds be inducted

    Steroids weren't even technically "illegal" in MLB during the time he was using were they?



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