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    K-State's Defensive Size

    Or lack thereof...

    While researching for my preview piece on WRNL (shameless plug: 2010 Game 3: Iowa State vs Kansas State Preview) I noticed that K-State has similar size problems at linebacker.

    LB 56 Alex Hrebec (5-11, 247, Jr.-2L)
    50 Tre Walker (6-3, 205, Fr.-HS) OR
    45 Kevin Rohleder (5-11, 224, Sr.-3L)

    LB 26 Jarell Childs (6-1, 225, So.-1L)
    53 Blake Slaughter (5-10, 230, So.-1L)

    LB 21 Troy Butler (5-11, 197, Sr.-1L)
    22 Thomas Ferguson (6-0, 198, So.-1L)

    Starting a guy in the middle at 225 and a guy on the weak side at 197. Their line is not very big either. Standard sized tackles but a 243 pound end on the weak side.

    Their situation is not all that different than ours and I really believe we can push these guys around to start the game. If we cannot run on these guys, or if they get a sustained pass rush, we are in for a long season. No reason not to rack up some yards on the ground.



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Isn't Troy Butler the Safety that committed to us before Chizik left and Snyder came in? We ended up losing him and getting Sims instead. Interesting to see him as a LB. No different I guess than us putting Washington there



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Exactly.

    It just goes to show we are not the only ones facing size and depth issues. These guys should be ripe for a physical game. Just like our defense is. I think what it all boils down to tomorrow will be mistakes and red zone effectiveness.



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Quote Originally Posted by d4nim4l View Post
    Exactly.

    It just goes to show we are not the only ones facing size and depth issues. These guys should be ripe for a physical game. Just like our defense is. I think what it all boils down to tomorrow will be mistakes and red zone effectiveness.
    It also comes down to controlling the clock. Whoever can keep the other undersized D on the field for long sustained drives will reap the rewards in the end.


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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Isn't Troy Butler the Safety that committed to us before Chizik left and Snyder came in? We ended up losing him and getting Sims instead. Interesting to see him as a LB. No different I guess than us putting Washington there
    Butler is the "hybrid" safety/linebacker who's in there with the 4-2-5 alignment. He does have some good quickness on the blitz.

    I agree with assessment that KSU and ISU defensive front 7 looks pretty similar. ISU WILL (I guarantee) have success with the zone read with Arnaud and Robinson. That's the worry spot I have as a K-State fan.

    I do see Daniel Thomas getting his yards, but how effective will Carson Coffman be with his throwing? That's the question.

    Along with this gem when it comes to the K-State QB... he's playing his first road game of 2010 in front of a ton of friends and family (played h.s. ball in KC area). Nervous? I think he will be.



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    It also comes down to controlling the clock. Whoever can keep the other undersized D on the field for long sustained drives will reap the rewards in the end.
    Good point. ISU & KSU are pretty evenly matched in most areas; it all comes down to which team is better coached and follows their assignments.


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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Our 3rd LB spot is a safety. We play the 4-2-5 so Butler is a hybrid. He isn't supposed to as big as the other LB's. We'd be f*cked if one of our LB's was 197 lbs.



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    It's nice having classy fans from the other team post on CF after all the hawks last week. Thanks guys!



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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    Actually, last week's hawks were nowhere near what we used to see. Holy cow have we had some Hawk homers.


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    Make this one for the ages!




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    Re: K-State's Defensive Size

    We were pretty hard after Blake Slaughter as well I believe. At least we only have one undersized starting LB.


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