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    ISU panel recommends allowing religious advisor for football

    Ames, Ia. — Iowa State’s football program should be allowed to have a volunteer religious advisor on its staff as long as that individual does not lead religious activities at mandatory team functions, an Iowa State faculty athletic panel recommended today.

    Iowa State Athletic Council members voted 7 to 1 in favor of Iowa State football coach Gene Chizik being permitted to establish a position that will provide assistance to football players who seek religious guidance or other types of personal counseling.

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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    ohhh boy here we go again... of course pretty much everyone on here was in favor of doing it. Even us non religious types. Glad to see the univ actually growing a pair on this, and not bowing to the wackos.


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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    There's wackos on both sides.... the university just chose to side with the majority of non-wackos. :)



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    this is great news



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    MAN THAT JUST SUCKS!!!!

    What the he!! are they thinking????



    Just kidding. Don't really care one way or the other. If the kids want it and will use it, fine by me. Just hope that "issues" of a negative nature ever arise from it.


    However, everybody best be ready for a Rag editorial condemning the move, come this Sunday.



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    You bring the Witosky, I'll bring the popcorn.



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    Good. Personally I think it is religious overkill and that the christian base seems to continue to find its way into every aspect of our multi-denominational culture with inadequate representation of other faiths, but If chizik wants a clergy man and we win more games then give him one. Like I said before, I'd spend state money on a buddist priest if that is what he thought we needed.



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    So does this mean the chaplain will be back on a volunteer basis, or is he still going to be on a salary?


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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    I think it's always been "volunteer" as far as the ISU payroll goes.

    But he will be compensated from outside sources, namely the FCA.

    At first, I was under the impression that the Gridiron club and the FCA were making an earmarked contribution to the Ath Dept. But I guess that's wrong and ISU isn't exchanging money with this person at all. (???)


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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    It was volunteer before Chizik got here, and that's why this has been an issue.


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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    It also wasn't full time from what I gather. Under Mac, the chaplain was a local minister who travelled with and was available as necessary for the team.

    This guy is 40 hours a week and on call. He won't do anything else except work for ISU footabll (athletics?)

    If I'm wrong, somebody clear it up. It's been known to happen (often)



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    I'm not sure I've read anyone saying what this really is. Which a recruiting tool plain and simple. If you walk into ma & pa Alabama/Florida/Georgia's house you better tell them their johnny boy is gonna keep up with church. If current players get some good out of it then even better.



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    That's been brought up before, and it might be a factor, but I'm not buying it's the primary reason.

    Coach is obviously a very, very faithful man. I've heard he's been very active w/ the FCA and was going to be a featured speaker at that religous conference at Hilton a few weeks ago, until it got axed.

    I have little doubt that he thinks this is a good thing for his football team and he's doing the right thing.

    And if he gets a four or five star recruit that he otherwise wouldn't because of it - well God works in mysterious ways.


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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    Quote Originally Posted by mustangcy View Post
    I'm not sure I've read anyone saying what this really is. Which a recruiting tool plain and simple. If you walk into ma & pa Alabama/Florida/Georgia's house you better tell them their johnny boy is gonna keep up with church. If current players get some good out of it then even better.
    Recruiting is the best argument for the chaplain. Pure business. "If m'boy messes up, put the fear of God inna him." Have to be able to tell parents in the south this.



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    Re: ISU panel recommends religious advisor for football

    Quote Originally Posted by mustangcy View Post
    I'm not sure I've read anyone saying what this really is. Which a recruiting tool plain and simple. If you walk into ma & pa Alabama/Florida/Georgia's house you better tell them their johnny boy is gonna keep up with church. If current players get some good out of it then even better.

    Yep, I'd say this is mostly about recruiting, and also about player retention. Basically, my opinion is that if Chizik thinks he needs a chaplain and it will help him win games one way or another, then he should have one...especially if someone else is paying for it.

    It will be interesting to see the response to this. I had a feeling that the Athletic Council wouldn't go against Chizik and Pollard.


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