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    Good win for the though police

    'Bong Hits for Jesus' case limits student rights - CNN.com

    Pretty darned sure this one's gonna limit pot use considerably. I am glad however that the supremes agree the constitution is a pretty flexible document.



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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Note to self: Students do not have full civil rights. Neither do prison inmates or members of the military. I wasn't the one who invented this concept, but there are some good arguments as to why they don't.

    Basically, student civil rights issues tend to have more noise to sound ratio than non-students, and there is a greater good served by temporarily keeping them out of the public view.


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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    Note to self: Students do not have full civil rights.
    What else is new?



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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Roberts added that while the court has limited student free speech rights in the past, young people do not give up all their First Amendment rights when they enter a school.
    This is the problem with the ruling though - none of the stuff took place AT SCHOOL.




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    Re: Good win for the though police

    I thought the thought police are the ones that get all the famous people fired when they slip up and say something politically incorrect in public. Maybe that's just me.


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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Or maybe they are the ones that are calling for controls on conservative talk radio. I'm confused



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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Quote Originally Posted by BryceC View Post
    This is the problem with the ruling though - none of the stuff took place AT SCHOOL.
    Just on the sidewalk IN FRONT OF SCHOOL. A distinction without a difference.

    I don't think removing an 18 year old adult from public school for promoting drug use on the sidewalk in front of school is restricting anyone's civil rights. The 18 year old adult in question does not have a constitutional right to free education. And that is the real issue, here. In return for an (allegedly) free education at a government school, students surrender a portion of their "civil rights." Of course, dependent minors and pets lack "civil rights" per se. Surrendering these "rights" is essential, as a large group of immature individuals who are constantly trying to stretch the limits of what they can get away with would render school as even more unmanageable than it is today.

    (BTW - I don't agree with the structural or conceptual basis for current-day schools anyway, I'm just "playing by the rules" for arguments' sake.)

    I don't think we want him promoting drug use to minors, either.



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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Quote Originally Posted by herbiedoobie View Post
    Just on the sidewalk IN FRONT OF SCHOOL. A distinction without a difference.

    I don't think removing an 18 year old adult from public school for promoting drug use on the sidewalk in front of school is restricting anyone's civil rights. The 18 year old adult in question does not have a constitutional right to free education. And that is the real issue, here. In return for an (allegedly) free education at a government school, students surrender a portion of their "civil rights." Of course, dependent minors and pets lack "civil rights" per se. Surrendering these "rights" is essential, as a large group of immature individuals who are constantly trying to stretch the limits of what they can get away with would render school as even more unmanageable than it is today.

    (BTW - I don't agree with the structural or conceptual basis for current-day schools anyway, I'm just "playing by the rules" for arguments' sake.)

    I don't think we want him promoting drug use to minors, either.
    Herbiedoobie <--- the last part of your name makes me laugh in the context of this thread. what does it really stand for since you are obviously anti-drug. BTW this is a simple observation, I am not trying to pick a fight.


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    Re: Good win for the though police

    Quote Originally Posted by jparker22 View Post
    Herbiedoobie <--- the last part of your name makes me laugh in the context of this thread. what does it really stand for since you are obviously anti-drug. BTW this is a simple observation, I am not trying to pick a fight.
    Good question. That was my nickname when I was a kid, before I was aware that the drug culture coopted it. (Oops, that's showing my age a little, hmmm?) Initially, it was supposed to be a term of derision, but I thought it sounded pretty cool, so I embraced it.



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