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    my take from Kinnick

    our DL is undersized. It looked like boys versus men out there.

    Arnaud =Meyer, great kid, peaked as a football player as a soph

    Demi Moore on Hawks sidelines, we have Ruth Crowe on ours.

    Dan McCarney called and told me it looked like we won the last 4 minutes.

    We wil still win 7 games and get a decent bowl.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    in CPR we trust



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    seneca wallace.


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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    I think zeus switched sides. Turns out he really was man enough to play for us, and in this case, to beat us down.

    My apologies to Zeus, and to Cyclone fans, for giving Zeus such bulletin board material to work with.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonedave25 View Post
    seneca wallace.
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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Actually Meyer won a state title as a senior and from the coaches from Atlantic that I know played his best football of his high school career that year.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by jamestaylor View Post

    Dan McCarney called and told me it looked like we won the last 4 minutes.

    Uh, when Danny Mac coached against Iowa, we won a lot more than "the last four minutes."
    We actually beat the Hawks. On a regular basis.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Uh, when Danny Mac coached against Iowa, we won a lot more than "the last four minutes."
    We actually beat the Hawks. On a regular basis.
    It's amazing how people revise the McCarney era at Iowa State. I bet that you are one of the main ones that is still bitter that Dan was let go.

    I mean it has been obvious over the past four years, with how in demand his head coaching services seem to be, that he has had all of these opportunities.

    I loved the guy too, and noone wanted him to win more than I did. But, he was at BEST an average head coach. He lost so many games over the years that could have been won, meaningful games, but choked on himself. He had like 3 wins over winning conference opponents, and other than a few Iowa games, he never beat anyone.

    I get that he was a big rah rah guy, and could spend a short amount of time with anyone and make them feel like a million dollars, but p.r. didn't beat K State when he was up 28-7, nor Missouri for the North title, and of course h managed to turn a 10 win team into a 7-5 team the next year.

    So please step outside your very tiny box, and look at a bigger picture here. We need to stay with this staff until they prove that they can't do it. This is an unforgiving schedule, and it is going to be very difficult.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by rdubbs View Post
    Actually Meyer won a state title as a senior and from the coaches from Atlantic that I know played his best football of his high school career that year.
    Just saw this one, Bret Meyer is one of the great victims of the end of the McCarney era. He was never given a chance because the QB position was coached so poorly under Mac, and Chizik only had him for a year (that doesn't mean that he would have been better, we just don't know).

    When, as a freshman, he was given the job over Flynn, he was allowed to make plays. The offensive structure was lax enough, and Bret was a good enough athlete to get the job done. As a soph. they took a lot of that away from him, and tried to keep him in the pocket more. Plus the o-lines at the end of the Mac era were scary bad. You can be Peyton Manning, but if you are on your back all the time, it doesn't matter.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by mikem View Post
    It's amazing how people revise the McCarney era at Iowa State. I bet that you are one of the main ones that is still bitter that Dan was let go.

    I mean it has been obvious over the past four years, with how in demand his head coaching services seem to be, that he has had all of these opportunities.

    I loved the guy too, and noone wanted him to win more than I did. But, he was at BEST an average head coach. He lost so many games over the years that could have been won, meaningful games, but choked on himself. He had like 3 wins over winning conference opponents, and other than a few Iowa games, he never beat anyone.

    I get that he was a big rah rah guy, and could spend a short amount of time with anyone and make them feel like a million dollars, but p.r. didn't beat K State when he was up 28-7, nor Missouri for the North title, and of course h managed to turn a 10 win team into a 7-5 team the next year.

    So please step outside your very tiny box, and look at a bigger picture here. We need to stay with this staff until they prove that they can't do it. This is an unforgiving schedule, and it is going to be very difficult.
    A man who sees it just like I do.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by mikem View Post
    Just saw this one, Bret Meyer is one of the great victims of the end of the McCarney era. He was never given a chance because the QB position was coached so poorly under Mac, and Chizik only had him for a year (that doesn't mean that he would have been better, we just don't know).

    When, as a freshman, he was given the job over Flynn, he was allowed to make plays. The offensive structure was lax enough, and Bret was a good enough athlete to get the job done. As a soph. they took a lot of that away from him, and tried to keep him in the pocket more. Plus the o-lines at the end of the Mac era were scary bad. You can be Peyton Manning, but if you are on your back all the time, it doesn't matter.
    This guy knows ISU football!!!!!



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Meyer beat Iowa. Meyer didnt turn the ball over. Meyer could complete passes to TB.


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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by mikem View Post
    It's amazing how people revise the McCarney era at Iowa State. I bet that you are one of the main ones that is still bitter that Dan was let go.
    No, he had to go, the program had regressed so much in the final 2-3 years. Please, just give you opinion, and don't presume to be a mind-reader of others.
    BTW, Mac didn't bring the program up from the sewer that Walden left it in by just being some "rah-rah" guy or PR man. You obviously never attended a practice. Ask any former player how intense Mac was.
    It's artifically inflating the importance of fans to implore that we "all stay together." This just in: we're all specatators. The future of the team's success or lack of it is determined on their practice field, their meeting rooms, and in games; not in the minds of fans, be they optimisitic or pessimistic...



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by mikem View Post
    Just saw this one, Bret Meyer is one of the great victims of the end of the McCarney era. He was never given a chance because the QB position was coached so poorly under Mac, and Chizik only had him for a year (that doesn't mean that he would have been better, we just don't know).
    So, is Arnaud being coached well now? He is twice the athlete that Meyer was.



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    Re: my take from Kinnick

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    No, he had to go, the program had regressed so much in the final 2-3 years. Please, just give you opinion, and don't presume to be a mind-reader of others.
    BTW, Mac didn't bring the program up from the sewer that Walden left it in by just being some "rah-rah" guy or PR man. You obviously never attended a practice. Ask any former player how intense Mac was.
    It's artifically inflating the importance of fans to implore that we "all stay together." This just in: we're all specatators. The future of the team's success or lack of it is determined on their practice field, their meeting rooms, and in games; not in the minds of fans, be they optimisitic or pessimistic...

    You know I was waiting for Jim Walden to be brought up.....That was one of the staples of the Mac excuses club.....Good job!

    Of course that sewer was created by a complete lack of institutional support.

    Mac is d-line coach, and a fine one, that is what he is. The rah rah p.r. spin made him look silly.



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