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    It starts with the o-line and d-line

    When they interviewed Mack Brown before the season on the Big 12 preview, he was quoted as saying "that the most important position on any team belongs to the o-line and the d-line, and not the star athlete. That is how the Hawks have become an elite team, I am not really sure how good Stanzi and Robinson are, but when you have a o-line and a d-line as good as they are, you hide there weaknesses.

    We will not become sucessful until we start building our teams around our lines, instead of builing around the athletes.




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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    We could not run, we could not pass. Other than that, we punted.


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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    I was concerned with our future d-line after this recruiting season. We need some DT's in there. The d-line has a LONG ways to go.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfreddy View Post
    When they interviewed Mack Brown before the season on the Big 12 preview, he was quoted as saying "that the most important position on any team belongs to the o-line and the d-line, and not the star athlete. That is how the Hawks have become an elite team, I am not really sure how good Stanzi and Robinson are, but when you have a o-line and a d-line as good as they are, you hide there weaknesses.

    We will not become sucessful until we start building our teams around our lines, instead of builing around the athletes.

    yup, and that is going to take a few years to build that pipeline. Program like ISU you have to get guys on campus, redshirt em, beef them up, and then by their sophmore or junior year they are ready..takes a long time to build a pipeline and depth



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by cyatheart View Post
    yup, and that is going to take a few years to build that pipeline. Program like ISU you have to get guys on campus, redshirt em, beef them up, and then by their sophmore or junior year they are ready..takes a long time to build a pipeline and depth
    I have heard that over and over. I think we need to start focusing more on the junior college ranks for these players, mixed in with a few freshman.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    O-line was ok (not great, but serviceable), but the D-line was getting pushed back all day.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    There is no doubt that we'll never have skill positions that can compete with Texas, OU, etc. But as you said, Iowa has built their teams around good OL and DL play. We've had some decent OL's in the past 20 years, but we're almost always outclassed at DL. That is a very tough position to recruit and I agree that until that changes, we'll always be lucky to get to 7 wins.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    I'm also not encouraged when I look at the weights of our 13 commitments for the 2011 class. The coaches have a lot of work to do to fill out that class. Time to start overrecruiting LINEMEN rather than wide receivers and DBs.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Our DL as a group haven't been dominate since the late 70's. Mac had some decent lines, but the entire group wasn't dominate, only 1 or 2 players were.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Boy, I'm not as impressed with our o-line as I was last year. Last year we played well against Iowa, and this year we got smoked. I know Iowa's DL is great, but we didn't look too sharp against NIU either and I thought that was a matchup we should have won easily based on last year. The KSU game is very important to get some confidence back and see how we stack up against an average defense.


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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by StLouisClone View Post
    I'm also not encouraged when I look at the weights of our 13 commitments for the 2011 class. The coaches have a lot of work to do to fill out that class. Time to start overrecruiting LINEMEN rather than wide receivers and DBs.
    My point exactly, I would rather overrecruit linemen than wide receivers.



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by besserheimerphat View Post
    Boy, I'm not as impressed with our o-line as I was last year. Last year we played well against Iowa, and this year we got smoked. I know Iowa's DL is great, but we didn't look too sharp against NIU either and I thought that was a matchup we should have won easily based on last year. The KSU game is very important to get some confidence back and see how we stack up against an average defense.
    I have been saying that losing Haughton was a big big deal. Hicks was penalized a number of times today and Scott was the emotional leader on that O-line and really talented. I think we will improve all year but we aren't as sharp as we were last year. Losing Reggie was bad enough but then losing SH really hurt. JMHO



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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by cyatheart View Post
    yup, and that is going to take a few years to build that pipeline. Program like ISU you have to get guys on campus, redshirt em, beef them up, and then by their sophmore or junior year they are ready..takes a long time to build a pipeline and depth
    Can we rent Mike Stensurud?


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    Re: It starts with the o-line and d-line

    Quote Originally Posted by StLouisClone View Post
    I'm also not encouraged when I look at the weights of our 13 commitments for the 2011 class. The coaches have a lot of work to do to fill out that class. Time to start overrecruiting LINEMEN rather than wide receivers and DBs.
    Na. Iowa almost always has a really solid DL and about half our guys start as 220-240lb LB types.

    You have to start getting guys like Karl Klug. Or Mike Daniels. Guys that have a great motor... few years in the program, few years in the weight room and you have something.



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