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    Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    I was very excited when Chizik came to ISU and felt betrayed when he left, but a year later and hindsight to take advantage of, I really think that it was the best move for both Chizik and ISU, he gets his dream job and we get a coach that has had one of the best starts to a career in school history.

    My actual question is why Chizik has taken a middle of the pack SEC team and overachieved while he underachieved at ISU?



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman38 View Post
    I was very excited when Chizik came to ISU and felt betrayed when he left, but a year later and hindsight to take advantage of, I really think that it was the best move for both Chizik and ISU, he gets his dream job and we get a coach that has had one of the best starts to a career in school history.

    My actual question is why Chizik has taken a middle of the pack SEC team and overachieved while he underachieved at ISU?
    IMO, becuase at ISU you have to coach players up, at Auburn, you just sit back and let the athletes play and the Chiz is an expert at the latter



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Coordinators. The answer to your question is coordinators.

    The man is a stellar recruiter, but he did a good job of that here at ISU. The thing I don't get is how that personality of his translates into recruiting. That part is the one I don't get. More power to him, but that's confusing.


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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Its hard not to be good with Auburn. They bring in big time recruits no matter who the coach is.


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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Coordinators. The answer to your question is coordinators
    Agreed.
    Its called picking good assistants that actually know what they are doing.



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Coordinators. The answer to your question is coordinators.
    Gus Malzahn/Ted Roof vs. Robert McFarland/Wayne Bolt.

    That's like pre-1990 Tyson vs. anyone.



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorCy View Post
    Agreed.
    Its called picking good assistants that actually know what they are doing.
    Are you saying Mcfarland and Bolt were not good Assitants?



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Auburn has had talent every year for a while. He was brought into a pretty good situation in terms of the level of talent on the team, unlike at ISU. And as someone else said, he learned his lesson at ISU and brought in good coordinators instead of good friends.



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCRAZY View Post
    Are you saying Mcfarland and Bolt were not good Assitants?
    Are you saying they WERE good assistants?



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman38 View Post
    My actual question is why Chizik has taken a middle of the pack SEC team and overachieved while he underachieved at ISU?

    1. He had no clue what he was getting into here at ISU - how hard it can be to recruit, budget, budget, budget.

    2. Tradition / recruiting - while Chizik did a nice job of bringing in some kids - Auburn has a long history of tradition and he can bring kids in on their name alone, let alone the nicer living conditions.

    3. Money - he was able to go out and hire an excellent coaching staff - top shelf coordinators and they were in turn able to hire top shelf assistant coaches.

    Go Clones!



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorCy View Post
    Agreed.
    Its called picking good assistants that actually know what they are doing.
    Yep at Auburn he actually hired good coaches. At Iowa State he hired his old buddies.



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhawkdmb View Post
    Are you saying they WERE good assistants?
    Um..................... no



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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDISU1 View Post
    IMO, becuase at ISU you have to coach players up, at Auburn, you just sit back and let the athletes play and the Chiz is an expert at the latter
    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Coordinators. The answer to your question is coordinators.

    The man is a stellar recruiter, but he did a good job of that here at ISU. The thing I don't get is how that personality of his translates into recruiting. That part is the one I don't get. More power to him, but that's confusing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clones21 View Post
    Its hard not to be good with Auburn. They bring in big time recruits no matter who the coach is.
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrocksmypants View Post
    Auburn has had talent every year for a while. He was brought into a pretty good situation in terms of the level of talent on the team, unlike at ISU. And as someone else said, he learned his lesson at ISU and brought in good coordinators instead of good friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klonz View Post
    1. He had no clue what he was getting into here at ISU - how hard it can be to recruit, budget, budget, budget.

    2. Tradition / recruiting - while Chizik did a nice job of bringing in some kids - Auburn has a long history of tradition and he can bring kids in on their name alone, let alone the nicer living conditions.

    3. Money - he was able to go out and hire an excellent coaching staff - top shelf coordinators and they were in turn able to hire top shelf assistant coaches.

    Go Clones!
    Quote Originally Posted by BigJCy View Post
    Yep at Auburn he actually hired good coaches. At Iowa State he hired his old buddies.
    pretty much sums up my thoughts.


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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Did you multi-quote the entire thread?


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    Re: Thought on Auburn & Chizik

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman38 View Post
    I was very excited when Chizik came to ISU and felt betrayed when he left, but a year later and hindsight to take advantage of, I really think that it was the best move for both Chizik and ISU, he gets his dream job and we get a coach that has had one of the best starts to a career in school history.

    My actual question is why Chizik has taken a middle of the pack SEC team and overachieved while he underachieved at ISU?
    It really comes down to two things in my opinion:

    1. His staff & specifically his coordinators are MUCH different at Auburn than at IA State, which plays a tremendous part in the successes/failures at either school & their ability to 'coach up.'

    2. Location, Location, Location - southern school, in what could be considered the best football conference while amassing a fairly solid tradition over the years, just gonna attract a completely different player at Auburn than Ames.



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