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    If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    My first choice would be go to SMU OC Hal Mumme the innovator of the Air Raid and give him what he wants. Would he leave SMU as OC to become our OC? If Sage could be a QB coach and learn under Mumme that would be fantastic.

    Mike Mangino would be an option. Would he leave a head coaching job at Youngstown State?

    Who else would be on your wish list and is it likely that we could pull them in?

    I think I would also be fine with Chuck Long as OC, but I don't know how that would sit with some Cyclone Fans.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    How about a great recruiter who can prevent injuries.


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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNorth View Post
    How about a great recruiter who can prevent injuries.
    I happen to think that Hal Mumme's offense with Bundrage and Lazard catching passes in it would be a pretty good recruiter.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    One that doesn't have the entire team stopping and looking to the sideline every play.


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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Mangino is not head coach at Youngstown State. I suspect he would leave for OC but I don't think he is an option. Too much negative history.

    Not impressed with Chuck Long and we don't need the Hayden Fry stink back in Ames.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    I'm not so sure on Chuck Long, but Mumme and the Fat Man are okay with me.


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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    One that brings talent in, and uses it wisely. Maybe even do things where one play compliments/leads to others.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Someone boring that believes it all starts with the line. We are never going to outgun teams like TT, Baylor, etc. Our best hope is to play like KSU.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue52 View Post
    Mangino is not head coach at Youngstown State. I suspect he would leave for OC but I don't think he is an option. Too much negative history.

    Not impressed with Chuck Long and we don't need the Hayden Fry stink back in Ames.
    You are right he is their TE's coach or something my bad. What negative history are you speaking of?



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    My first choice would be go to SMU OC Hal Mumme the innovator of the Air Raid and give him what he wants. Would he leave SMU as OC to become our OC? If Sage could be a QB coach and learn under Mumme that would be fantastic.

    Mike Mangino would be an option. Would he leave a head coaching job at Youngstown State?

    Who else would be on your wish list and is it likely that we could pull them in?

    I think I would also be fine with Chuck Long as OC, but I don't know how that would sit with some Cyclone Fans.
    How about Nick Saban or Mark Richt.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by CYcoFan View Post
    You are right he is their TE's coach or something my bad. What negative history are you speaking of?
    His meltdowns at KU and treating players like dog ****. I would take Mangino btw.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Someone boring that believes it all starts with the line. We are never going to outgun teams like TT, Baylor, etc. Our best hope is to play like KSU.
    I just think it's funny you mention two teams who came from nothing to have offensive success. They can do it, but we can't. Also, Indiana has done it, Wazzou will do it, Missouri has done it, KU has done it. All with spreads. How many teams like KSU can you find who have poor history but have overcome. It should also be noted that in Snyders first stint, his system wasn't all that different than everyone elses.


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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Does it matter? We've had 4 different OC's in recent memory and we've ran the same hurry-up look at the side line zone read bull **** with every one.

    It must be some unwritten rule of what offensive system to run at Iowa State somewhere.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    I just think it's funny you mention two teams who came from nothing to have offensive success. They can do it, but we can't. Also, Indiana has done it, Wazzou will do it, Missouri has done it, KU has done it. All with spreads. How many teams like KSU can you find who have poor history but have overcome. It should also be noted that in Snyders first stint, his system wasn't all that different than everyone elses.
    Indiana 3-5, WSU 4-5, KU 2-6, and mu 8-1.



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    Re: If we fire Messingham what type of OC could we get?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Indiana 3-5, WSU 4-5, KU 2-6, and mu 8-1.
    Oh, I thought we were talking about the offense, not the whole team. My bad. Also, read what I said about KU and Wazzou.


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