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    Re: Pre-Memorial Day Hoiberg NBA Update

    Dude... you never 'bingo' a clonedude post. never.
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    But he is all of those things, and you throwing a fit over him potentially leaving doesn't change that in my (and I think a majority of fans) mind.



    That's a really petty overreaction. I...
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    It seems to me that you are trying awfully hard to justify your upcoming meltdown, which will inevitably be filled with witty phrases like "nut kick", "destroyed legacy", "stepping stone" and "money...
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    I just disagree. I'll refine my statement to 'it's not primarily about money'. As I was just discussing in another thread - it's about reaching the pinnacle of your profession. At least to Fred,...
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    But what you think doesn't matter. If Fred thinks its the pinnacle of his profession, why begrudge him the chance to chase it? Everyone who has reported anything on this has said it's not about...
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    Except he's not chasing a paycheck, he's chasing the pinnacle of his profession.
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    Re: Pre-Memorial Day Hoiberg NBA Update

    but did they then weigh in on the "no longer Mayor" question?
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    I wrote this upthread, but I'll repeat here. I think he would think that he's leaving the program in a good spot and in good hands. Maybe I'm overestimating him, but I doubt he'd be as sure of the...
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    Where did I say this whole thing was great? I have a long long post history here, go see if I ever ***** about ISU athletics.
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    I would have guessed more like 8 years than 5 years, but I fully expected him to leave for the NBA. I remember at least 3-4 times he was asked about win records or long time coaches, and every time...
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    I've only discussed it with ~6 casual fans, but they've all had the same reaction: "oh really? I hadn't heard that. Good for him."
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    The fanatical wing of the fan base will go crazy, but you guys go crazy every couple of months anyway. the bulk of the non-fanatical fan base will wish him well and still view him as The Mayor.
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    So 5 years is a killer "nut kick", but 10 years wouldn't be?
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    Could you explain why that's your opinion? How does this 'destroy his legacy'?
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    For those considering this a "nut kick", what was your expectations on the duration Fred would coach here? Wasn't this "nut kick" inevitable, as there was no way he was going to be a 15-20 year...
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    And if he has given such an ultimatum to the Bulls, you wouldn't know about it. It wouldn't be public info.



    I enjoy how recovering **** open heart surgery is "gone into hiding". Making a...
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    That's why you aren't an AD.
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    Here's my baseless speculation on this Fred's thoughts: Fred just had his second open heart surgery and spent last season at <100% (no tie!) because of his heart. He's not under any delusions that...
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    Re: Pre-Memorial Day Hoiberg NBA Update

    This is giving my flashbacks to 2006. Jeremy's info and style is the reason I was user #18 here.

    Thank you so much Jeremy!
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    Re: Official 2015 Hoiberg NBA Speculation Thread

    In the long run, these two weeks are not doing any damage to the ISU Mens Basketball program. Fred was going to leave sometime. Him leaving would hurt the program, regardless of whether it was...
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